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LIVE FROM DC: Abundance and Social Democracy: Enemies or Allies?

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Feb 10, 2026
Sandeep Vaheesan, antitrust legal director focused on corporate power. Mike Konczal, policy lead on inequality and industrial strategy. Jerusalem Demsas, housing and affordability reporter. Baillee Brown, pro-building policy advocate. They debate how to scale housing, clean energy, and public goods while preserving democratic power. Conversation touches on permitting, market control, zoning, NEPA, and political tradeoffs.
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How Housing Became A National Flashpoint

  • Jerusalem Demsas recounts how housing became salient in 2020 as prices surged and inland cities strained.
  • She describes YIMBYism scaling from coastal debates into widespread policymaker interest.
INSIGHT

Abundance Tied To Geopolitics And Industrial Policy

  • Abundance gained traction after political shocks and material shortfalls like housing, climate, and supply-chain concerns.
  • Mike Konczal links it to industrial policy, reshoring, and desire for faster execution post-2017 China consolidation.
INSIGHT

Replicating The New Deal's Mixed Approach

  • Historical New Deal models combined large public investment with rules that disciplined capital and encouraged long-term R&D.
  • Sandeep Vaheesan argues modern policy should replicate that mix of public ownership and regulation to deliver abundance.
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