
The New Stack Podcast From Cloud Native to AI Native: Where Are We Going?
Nov 28, 2025
In this engaging discussion, guests include Kate Goldenring, a software engineer at Fermyon Technologies who champions WebAssembly for secure edge model deployment, and James Harmison from Red Hat, focusing on AI infrastructure. Shaun O'Meara, CTO at Mirantis, emphasizes the need for deep infrastructure awareness for AI workloads. Sean O'Dell from Dynatrace highlights how AI amplifies observability challenges. Jonathan Bryce of CNCF stresses the importance of robust inference layers, ensuring that discussions extend beyond just chatbots to the critical aspects of AI-native systems.
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Wasm Enables Portable AI Tooling
- WebAssembly provides polyglot portability and sandboxed security for AI components across regions.
- Kate highlights MCP server implementations in Wasm as a growing, interoperable pattern for AI tooling.
AI Amplifies Observability Needs
- Sean O'Dell says AI dramatically increases observability needs because of larger data volumes and new user-centric signals.
- He stresses a strong observability foundation is essential to understand model-driven behavior.
Enforce Automated Guardrails For Agents
- James Harmison urges implementing automated guardrails for agentic systems to prevent malicious actions.
- He advises observing interactions between models and external tools, databases, and MCP servers.
