On with Kara Swisher Pete Buttigieg on Biden, Trump, Gaza, and His 2028 Presidential Plans
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Sep 22, 2025 
Pete Buttigieg, former U.S. Secretary of Transportation and a rising star in the Democratic party, discusses challenges facing the party as he weighs a 2028 presidential run. He addresses the complexities of Biden's 2024 candidacy and the evolving stance on Gaza. Buttigieg critiques political violence and social media's role in radicalization, and offers insights on gerrymandering. He also shares thoughts on the future of the party, emerging leaders, and the importance of rebuilding trust in American institutions after Trump.
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Hindsight Favors A Short Mini-Primary
- Buttigieg reflects that a short 'mini-primary' after Biden's exit would likely have helped.
- He admits urgency then justified immediate consolidation but hindsight favors a brief contest.
Go Into Unfriendly Spaces To Win Hearts
- Democrats should enter contested spaces and media (including hostile outlets) to reach voters.
- Take measured risks with long-form formats and direct engagement to expand audience reach.
Palestinian State Must Be Negotiated
- Buttigieg endorses recognition of a Palestinian state as part of a negotiated two-state solution.
- He cautions recognition requires security guarantees and credible negotiated terms.