Dry Powder: The Private Equity Podcast

Spotting the Downturn Early and Coming Out Ahead w/ Gryphon's David Andrews

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Feb 3, 2026
David Andrews, Co-CEO and founder of Gryphon Investors and a longtime private equity veteran, explains how he spotted a harsher cycle early. He discusses early warning signs since 2014 and the risks of pro forma EBITDA tricks. He describes pausing fundraising, protecting portfolio liquidity, mistakes around covenant-light debt, and why better exit conditions may arrive by 2026.
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ANECDOTE

Early Warning To LPs

  • David Andrews told LPs in August 2022 he believed a harsh private equity cycle was starting and convened an advisory board to discuss pausing a normal fundraise.
  • About half of LPs initially pushed back, but by October many who had finished diligence a year earlier reacted as if "they'd seen a ghost."
INSIGHT

Pro Forma EBITDA Drove The Problem

  • Andrews identified "pro forma EBITDA madness" as a deeper problem than headline purchase multiples driving low DPIs.
  • He links aggressive pro forma EBITDA assumptions to elongated value creation curves and poor realized returns.
ADVICE

Prioritize Portfolio Over Fundraising

  • Keep investment teams focused on portfolio companies rather than fundraising during a downturn.
  • Triple down on sector analysis and be extra vigilant about debt agreements and covenants.
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