Darwin on The Evolutionary Engine of Love: A Conversation with David Loye and Rianne Eisler

“Looking to Future Generations, there is no cause to fear that the social instincts will grow weaker, and we may expect that virtuous habits will grow stronger. In this case the struggle between our higher and lower impulses will be less severe and virtue will be triumphant.” — Charles Darwin

Today Jeff talks with Dr. David Loye about his new book, Rediscovering Darwin: The Rest of Darwin’s Theory and Why We Need It Today. In his book David reveals a set of fundamental teachings clearly presented by Charles Darwin, but which have been virtually ignored by his followers for over 100 years. In short Darwin identified two drivers of evolution: competition (“survival of the fittest“), but also and equally what he unabashedly called love, and which he elucidated in terms of compassion, moral sense, appreciation of beauty and even spirit.

Scientists built the evolutionary edifice exclusively on the first half of Darwin’s teachings, creating what David calls “the hole in the modern mind” and providing justification for a selfish and disenchanted view of humanity. David argues that re-integrating the second half of Darwin’s teachings is the palliative humanity needs today, and necessary to create a more humane and sustainable world.

At age 93, David Loye personifies an important era in the history of evolutionary thought. His extraordinary journey starts with a historic, secret meeting in cold war Budapest among a select group of evolutionary scientists from both sides of the iron curtain. It led not just to his discoveries about Darwin, but to his own evolutionary thinking laid out in 30 books, including insights into “self-organization,” which Ken Wilber calls “one of the most important topics alive today.“

David is joined in this interview by his wife Rianne Eisler, herself a formidable evolutionary thinker and writer. Her most famous book, The Chalice and the Blade, is in its 56th printing.

David Loye is a psychologist, evolutionary systems scientist and a former member of the faculty at both the Princeton and UCLA Schools of Medicine. He is a co-founder of two international organizations for updating and expanding evolutionary studies: The General Evolution Research Group, and The Society for Chaos Theory in Psychology and the Life Sciences.