Short Wave The psychology behind why you dread small talk
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Apr 17, 2026 
Elsa Chang, NPR journalist and All Things Considered co-anchor, joins a lively science roundup. They dig into why small talk feels painful but can surprise us. They also get into what lobster experiments reveal about pain-like responses. Plus, a fascinating clue about how ancient lakes helped shape the Grand Canyon.
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Why Small Talk Feels Better Than Expected
- People consistently expect boring conversations to be dull, then rate them as more interesting and enjoyable afterward.
- Researchers had 1,800 participants discuss topics like onions, Pokemon, and math, online and in person, with friends and strangers.
Give Small Moments Of Connection A Chance
- Avoid skipping quick chats just because you assume they will be boring.
- Elizabeth Trinh says passing on a co-worker at the coffee machine or a neighbor in the elevator can cost small moments of connection and belonging.
Painkillers Changed How Lobsters Reacted To Shock
- Lobsters given aspirin or lidocaine reacted less strongly to electric shock, suggesting pain-like experience beyond simple reflex.
- The team distinguished nociception from subjective pain, then measured reduced tail-flipping in medicated lobsters versus untreated ones.