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Reading Books As Sacred Practice
- The hosts read Harry Potter as if it were a sacred text to explore moral and spiritual lessons.
- They treat the books as a lens to practice love and bravery without claiming literal perfection.
How The Hosts Met
- Vanessa met Mat at Harvard Divinity School where she was a student and he was her teacher.
- Vanessa is a non-denominational chaplain and a practicing atheist who values conversation for moral practice.
Critical, Loving Engagement
- The hosts emphasize pulling lessons from any source with a critical eye, open mind, and loving intent.
- They see practicing love and bravery as central aims of engaging with texts like Harry Potter.


