The Joe Rogan Experience #2395 - Mariana van Zeller
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Oct 17, 2025 
Mariana van Zeller, an investigative journalist and creator of National Geographic's 'Trafficked,' dives into the murky world of black and gray markets. She shares insights on gaining access to cartels, the hidden realities of drug trafficking, and the corruption within law enforcement. Mariana details shocking scams in rehab and the opioid crisis, explores the psychology behind scams, and emphasizes the importance of empathy in understanding crime and migration. Her experience shapes a conversation about independent journalism and the urgent need for nonviolence in leadership.
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Study Both Black And Gray Markets
- When analyzing illicit markets, examine both black (illegal) and gray (unregulated/untaxed) segments for full impact.
- Consider their effects on public revenue, services, and social harms to craft better policy responses.
Undercover At Pill Mills
- In Florida pain clinics, doctors saw patients in under three minutes and rubber-stamped prescriptions for OxyContin.
- Patients came from across the country, fueling addiction and resale of pills.
Counterfeit Finisher In Lima
- Mariana filmed counterfeit currency operations in Lima where finishers used cornmeal to mimic the feel of U.S. bills.
- Fake bills then entered U.S. circulation via commercial airlines and small-town distribution networks.
