
Broken Record with Rick Rubin, Malcolm Gladwell, Bruce Headlam and Justin Richmond Grant-Lee Phillips
Feb 10, 2026
Grant-Lee Phillips, singer-songwriter and former Grant Lee Buffalo frontman, reflects on his folk-infused rock roots and new album In the Hour of Dust. He recounts finding an ancient painting that inspired the title. He talks about more direct lyrics, spontaneous songwriting, melodic and guitar experiments, and the La Brea Tar Pits moment that sparked “American Lions.”
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Cutting Teeth In L.A.'s Underground Clubs
- Phillips moved to L.A. in 1983, joined underground clubs like Owls Bar and Raji's, and cut his teeth in small venues.
- He describes those rooms as steam kettles where a bit more force would blow the lid off, shaping his early band experiences.
Rapid Rise During A Music Wave
- Grant Lee Buffalo rose quickly during a wave of music when labels briefly stepped back and let musicians make records.
- The band found particular success in Europe and the UK, where Phillips still tours frequently.
Why Grant Lee Buffalo Ended
- The band dissolved after long shared history and touring frustrations; Phillips felt pulled toward solitary songwriting.
- He explains that being a trio can feel like a 'six-legged beast' when members want different directions.



