Refactoring Podcast How to be Successful as a Manager 🎽 — with Thiago Ghisi
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Apr 5, 2024 
Thiago Ghisi, Director of Engineering at Nubank, discusses what makes managers successful, career development in tech, and transitioning from expert to strategist. Topics include productivity, feedback loops, becoming a technical manager, and the Four Ps model for effective management.
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Use The Four Ps As A Growth Map
- Use the Four Ps: Platform, Product, Process, People, to scope managerial responsibilities and growth areas.
- Audit yourself across these pillars and focus on weak dimensions to become more effective.
Staff Roles Are A Different Leadership Mode
- Senior IC and staff/principal roles require different mindsets: problem delivery vs. problem finding and shaping orgs.
- Staff engineers act like directors, working cross-organization and thinking years ahead.
Choose Your Track, Not The Ladder
- Don’t treat career ladders as a single linear path; choose the track that fits your strengths and goals.
- Accept that some companies lack staff-level opportunities and that staying senior can still be a fulfilling career.