The Curiosity Shop with Brené Brown and Adam Grant

Mission vs. Ego: The Dangers of Narcissistic Leadership

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Apr 2, 2026
They explore why people fall for narcissistic leaders and the social conditions that enable them. They unpack shame-driven fear, grandiose versus vulnerable narcissism, and how anxiety and reward systems amplify self-serving leadership. They discuss credit-hoarding, the costs of emotional labor, and concrete survival tactics for people stuck under narcissistic bosses.
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INSIGHT

Shame Drives Narcissistic Leadership

  • Narcissistic leadership often stems from a shame-based fear of being ordinary rather than just raw ego.
  • Brené Brown explains clinicians call it the "terror of ordinariness," driving leaders to protect image and status at organizational cost.
INSIGHT

Ego Over Mission Corrodes Teams

  • Narcissistic leaders prioritize ego over mission, creating brown‑nosing and backstabbing as people seek favor.
  • Adam Grant summarizes research showing narcissists normalize cutthroat behavior and undermine cooperation and trust.
ADVICE

Choose Leaders Who Want To Win Not Be Right

  • Prefer working with leaders who want to win more than they want to be right; that's a signal they'll choose mission over image.
  • Brené Brown screens C-suites for willingness to model vulnerability, empathy, and rethinking.
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