Some More News Even More News: War With Iran, But It's Not A War, But Yes It Is And They Started It
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Mar 3, 2026 They debate whether recent U.S. and Israeli strikes on Iran count as a war and what that means. They discuss conflicting casualty reports and contradictory government justifications. They warn about unpredictable regional escalation and political spin. They highlight humanitarian suffering and fractured domestic political reactions.
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Operation Epic Fury Sparked Uncontrolled Escalation
- The U.S. and Israel launched Operation Epic Fury, killing Ayatollah Khamenei and many civilians, triggering a major escalation that hosts call a de facto war with Iran.
- Cody Johnston and Jonathan emphasize this wasn’t a quick fix and warned of long, unpredictable consequences beyond a single strike.
No Clear Evidence Presented For Imminent Threat
- The hosts argue there was no clear national-security evidence justifying the strikes, criticizing the administration’s shifting, reactive justifications.
- Katy Stoll stresses absence of proof the U.S. faced an imminent threat and calls the action chaotic rather than protective.
Multiple Contradictory Justifications Expose Poor Planning
- Hosts highlight the administration tossed multiple inconsistent rationales—election interference, assassination plots, humanitarian reasons—revealing absence of coherent strategy.
- Jonathan notes the contrast with how Iraq’s case was laboriously sold, here consent was barely manufactured.