This week Charlie and Frankie are joined on the phone by the Independent’s senior lifestyle writer, author and podcaster, Olivia Petter.

Having just written her debut book Millennial Love (which we both enjoyed hugely), and as host of the namesake podcast in which she quizzes millennials about their love lives, there is nothing about the modern love landscape that Olivia doesn’t know. We discuss IRL vs App dating, whether the pandemic has made her think differently about relationships and what the future of thirty-something sex looks like. Plus, she shares her summer read and the TV series she can’t stop binging.

Millennial Love by Olivia Petter is out 8th July - pre-order here.

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Links from the episode:

What If You Could Do It All Over - Joshua Rothman, The New Yorker

Superstore

Red Comet: The Short Life And Blazing Art Of Sylvia Plath - Heather Clark

Hour 3: Seahawks LB Ernest Jones, plus Joel McHale In-Studio