
Moral Maze Pragmatism and Principle: what is the role of morality in foreign policy?
Mar 12, 2026
Guest
Jamie Gaskarth
Guest
Christopher Hill

Guest
Peter Oborne
Guest
Jan Harper-Hayes

Guest
Tim Stanley
Guest
Ash Sarkar

Guest
Giles Fraser
Guest
Matthew Taylor
Jamie Gaskarth, professor of foreign policy, and Christopher Hill, emeritus professor of international law, bring academic perspectives. Peter Oborne, journalist on the Middle East, and Jan Harper-Hayes, American Republican, add political critique. Tim Stanley, historian, Ash Sarkar, left-wing commentator, Giles Fraser, ethicist, and Matthew Taylor, policy expert, debate morality versus national interest, alliances, law, hypocrisy and the practical limits of principled action.
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Special Relationship Under Strain After Iran Row
- Britain’s long habit of sticking close to the US is now strained by recent disputes over Iran, forcing a re-evaluation of the special relationship.
- Michael Buerk frames the episode around whether foreign policy should prioritise national self-interest or moral principle after the bases/refusal row.
Rules Based Order Protects Smaller States
- Peter Oborne defends the UK's initial refusal to let US use bases as a stand for international law and against an 'aggressive act' he calls a war of aggression.
- He argues small states need the rules-based order more than great powers which can ignore institutions.
Trade Ties Muzzle Criticism Of Atrocities
- Peter Oborne recounts witnessing alleged genocide in Sudan and criticises UK reluctance to name allied states like the UAE as sponsors.
- He describes how strategic trade and investment ties silence public condemnation despite severe abuses.
