Ep 264 Mark Epstein – The Role of Desire in Buddhism

Feb 22, 2026

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Adam interviews Mark Epstein, a psychiatrist and author, discussing the complex nature of desire from both a Buddhist and psychotherapeutic perspective. They explore how desire is often misunderstood as an obstacle, when in fact it can serve as a vehicle for spiritual growth and understanding. The conversation delves into the importance of recognizing and embracing desire rather than suppressing it, the role of the ego, and the lessons learned from personal experiences and stories, including the Ramayana and the parable of the strawberry.

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Mark Shares

· Desire is not inherently negative; it's often our perception of it that limits us.

· Suppressing desire can lead to greater dissatisfaction and emotional issues.

· Desire can be a pathway to spiritual growth and understanding.

· The ego plays a crucial role in our awareness and spiritual practice.

· Meditation helps us to understand and transform our desires.

· The middle path involves finding a balance between indulgence and suppression of desires.

· Personal anecdotes can illustrate the complexities of desire and satisfaction.

· Understanding the nature of desire can lead to greater empathy and connection with others.

· The Ramayana serves as a metaphor for the journey of desire and its true purpose.