The Peter McCormack Show #173 - Liberman - We’re Training AI to Get Rid Of Us
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May 8, 2026 
David Liberman, entrepreneur and activist building tokenized, open AI infrastructure. Daniil Liberman, entrepreneur who sold a company to Snapchat and now builds censorship-resistant AI networks. They discuss the race to decentralize AI before centralized providers lock power. Short, urgent takes on monopolies, invisible control, recursive AI growth, tokenized compute, and a one-to-two year window to act.
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Choose Protocols With Immutable Rules
- Prefer decentralized protocols because encoded rules create certainty and resist changing narratives.
- David argues centralized companies will change promises once they control platforms, degrading service and increasing prices.
Bitcoin Proved Grassroots Infrastructure Scaling
- The Bitcoin community built massive infrastructure from grassroots investment, not large corporations.
- David notes $300B went into Bitcoin infrastructure via millions contributing ASICs, data centers and chips.
Protocol Design Protects Open Model Training
- Gonka protocol reserves ~20% of network power for free training of open-source models to ensure future models remain public.
- Daniil explains inference is paid but training resources are preserved for open research.