The Primary Maths Podcast Metacognition in Maths: The Secret To Building Resilient Learners - with Nathan Burns
How do we help children become confident, independent mathematical thinkers, not just answer-getters?
In this episode of the Primary Maths Podcast, Jon Cripwell and Becky Brown explore the surprisingly powerful concept of metacognition and what it looks like in real classrooms, from early years to upper Key Stage 2.
Jon also explains why a 12-inch pizza is nearly four times the size of a six-inch one, and how that misconception links directly to our work as teachers.
Later, Jon is joined by Nathan Burns, also known as Mr Metacognition, to discuss:
- What metacognition really means, beyond just thinking about thinking
- Why it is not just for older or high-attaining pupils
- How to model thinking in maths lessons without overwhelming your students
- Practical ways to build mathematical resilience and reflection into your teaching
The conversation also covers curriculum pressures, classroom talk, and the small changes that can make a big difference to mathematical understanding.
A quick note: There was a slight issue with Nathan's sound during the recording, which we have tried to clean up as much as possible. Apologies, and thank you for bearing with it.
Key takeaways
- Metacognition is more than a buzzword – it is a powerful tool for learning in maths
- Modelling your thinking out loud helps pupils develop their own strategies
- Resilience is built by teaching children what to do when they do not know what to do
- Metacognitive strategies can be used from the early years upwards
- Classroom talk and exploration matter just as much as correct answers
- Relying solely on PowerPoint may limit modelling opportunities
- Real-world contexts, such as pizza pricing, can help make abstract maths meaningful
Featured guest
Nathan Burns – Mr Metacognition
Author of Inspiring Deep Learning and Teaching Hacks, Nathan is a teacher, writer and national trainer specialising in metacognition, curriculum design and making cognitive science practical for schools.
Find him on X: @MrMetacognition
Resource of the Week
This week’s recommended resource is place value strips – simple, effective and ideal for developing early number sense and reasoning.
Episode chapters
00:00 – Welcome to the Primary Maths Podcast
01:30 – What is metacognition really about
03:20 – Pizza pricing and the maths of area
09:48 – Decimal separators around the world
15:08 – Interview with Nathan Burns
46:00 – Modelling thinking and building independence
55:00 – Visualisers versus PowerPoint in maths lessons
1:01:30 – Where early career teachers should start
1:08:00 – Quickfire round: resource picks, favourite number, and a small thing that makes a big difference
Keywords
Primary maths, metacognition, maths education, teaching for mastery, curriculum design, real-world maths, cognitive science, maths misconceptions, teacher CPD, UK primary teaching, Nathan Burns, Mr Metacognition, Primary Maths Podcast