The Nation Podcasts What If Democrats Didn’t Suck? (w/ Morris Katz) | Fighting Fascism
Apr 6, 2026
Morris Katz, political strategist known for leading Zohran Mamdani and Graham Platner’s campaigns, discusses bold economic populist messaging and eye-catching ads. He talks about naming villains, turning narrative into field power, and how populism can counter authoritarian appeals. Conversation also covers viral ad tactics, volunteer-driven turnout, and prospects for 2028.
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Naming The Real Villains Restores Trust
- Democrats lost credibility by refusing to name the real villains of economic pain, leaving voters wondering why life is so hard.
- Morris Katz argues naming oligarchs, private equity, and price-gouging restores trust and creates a clear us-vs-them narrative.
Show Government Works With Concrete Wins
- Communicate both big policy and the everyday effectiveness of government to persuade voters to accept bigger government.
- Use tangible examples (paving bumps, permitting reform like the 'halalflation' video) to show government can deliver quickly and well.
Use Playful Local Content To Reframe Debates
- Viral, culture-forward content (like halalflation) can reframe debates toward affordability and broaden coalitions.
- Katz credits web videos and paid ads that made permitting reform feel authentic and New York-specific.