Mark Leonard's World in 30 Minutes

Uncrowded house: European power during demographic change

Jun 6, 2025
Alberto Rizzi, an ECFR policy fellow based in Rome and author of 'Markets, Migrants, Microchips,' dives into the complex topic of Europe’s demographic transition. He explores the implications of a shrinking and aging population on geopolitical power. Rizzi discusses the contrasting experiences of European nations like Germany and Italy versus France and the UK. He emphasizes the necessity for Europe to strengthen international ties, particularly with Africa and the Indo-Pacific, in light of shifting demographics and labor demands.
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ANECDOTE

Migration Impact in Eastern Europe

  • Central and Eastern European countries lost significant working-age populations to migration since the Cold War.
  • Remittances from migrants abroad help fuel economic growth in their home countries.
INSIGHT

Drivers of Population Growth in France and the UK

  • France's higher birth rate is aided by generous welfare and childcare support.
  • The UK's population growth is mainly fueled by immigration from Europe and beyond.
INSIGHT

Limits of Welfare on Birth Rates

  • Scandinavian welfare policies improve work-life balance but don't fully reverse demographic decline.
  • Economic and cultural factors prevent couples from having their desired number of children.
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