Truth Unites Trent Horn and Gavin Ortlund on Baptism: Catholic vs. Baptist
Apr 29, 2022
Join Trent Horn, a Catholic apologist and author, as he engages with Gavin Ortlund, a Baptist pastor and theologian, in a fascinating dialogue about baptism. They delve into the contrasting views on baptismal regeneration, discussing whether it justifies or sanctifies. The conversation includes intriguing points on Cornelius's faith, the relationship between actual grace and regeneration, and the role of tradition in their theological debate. They also touch on pastoral concerns about formalism and ritualism surrounding baptism.
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Cornelius As A Boundary Case
- Trent treats Cornelius in Acts 10 as an exception where the Holy Spirit falls prior to baptism to show Gentiles fit recipients.
- He argues baptism did not save Cornelius, even though the event served a boundary-breaking purpose.
Actual Grace Versus Regenerating Grace
- Trent distinguishes actual grace (a movement toward God) from sanctifying grace (regeneration).
- He explains observable change before baptism can be actual grace or natural/psychological transformation, not necessarily regeneration.
Avoid Assuming Regeneration From Surface Fruit
- Do not infer regeneration solely from outward moral change because natural virtue and social factors can mimic Christian fruit.
- Consider long-term endurance and theological markers before concluding someone is regenerate.
