Broken Record with Rick Rubin, Malcolm Gladwell, Bruce Headlam and Justin Richmond

Jacob Collier

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Jan 27, 2026
Jacob Collier, multi-instrumentalist and Grammy-winning arranger known for dense harmony and inventive collaborations. He talks about stripping back to a single custom five-string guitar, recording an album in four days, and how unique tuning, British folk and Joni Mitchell shaped his approach. He also discusses singing Bach chorales with his family and performing live studio versions from the new record.
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Playing With Joni Mitchell

  • Jacob described playing with Joni Mitchell at her 'Joni jams' and accompanying her at the Grammys and Hollywood Bowl.
  • He felt exhilarated by her jazzlike phrasing and the musical risk-taking those sessions encouraged.
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Theory Is A Tool, Not The Driver

  • Jacob uses music theory when needed, but composes by feel using shapes and emotional responses.
  • Theory helps him communicate ideas to others, but songwriting remains associative rather than analytical.
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Drones Ground Guitar Arrangements

  • The guitar inherently enables drones by letting strings ring continuously, which grounds songs differently than piano.
  • Jacob exploited lower-string drones and open-tuning sensibilities to create harmonic context and contrast.
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