
When The Wolves Came 4: Fight or Flight
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Mar 25, 2025 Caleb E. Campbell, Pastor at Desert Springs Bible Church and author of 'Disarming Leviathan,' shares insights on confronting extremism in the church. He discusses whether to sever ties or engage with those holding controversial views. The conversation delves into the challenges of navigating broken relationships post-pandemic and the intersection of faith and politics, particularly after the January 6 insurrection. With a focus on empathy and dialogue, Campbell offers strategies for engaging with American Christian nationalists and promoting understanding within evangelical communities.
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Pushback and Politics
- Jared Stacey faced pushback for discussing racism with his Virginia congregation.
- Parents feared their children becoming Democrats, equating it with heresy.
Jamar's Experience
- After the 2016 election, Jamar Tisby expressed feeling unsafe in his predominantly white church.
- This sparked backlash, including racist attacks and accusations of being un-Christian.
Shifting Focus
- Jamar Tisby created the Reformed African American Network to amplify Black voices in evangelicalism.
- The network shifted focus from "racial apologetics" to serving Black Christians directly.









