Tangle Suspension of the Rules. - Kmele interviews Charles C.W. Cooke and then joins Isaac and Ari to talk about Susie Wiles and Rob Reiner.
Dec 19, 2025
Charles C.W. Cooke, a Senior Writer at National Review and a keen analyst of conservatism, joins for an insightful chat about Trump 2.0 and its implications. He examines the historical view of Trump's nonconsecutive presidency and the impact on conservative ideals. Cooke critiques tariffs and spending, warns about immigration policy execution, and forecasts midterm outcomes based on economic conditions. The hosts also discuss Trump's controversial tweet about Rob Reiner and explore the dynamics of conservative reactions, showcasing a vibrant exchange of ideas.
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Susie Wiles: Competent Insider
- Isaac Saul finds the Vanity Fair Susie Wiles profile revealing but not damaging to the administration.
- He notes Wiles appears competent, influential, and unusually candid about internal disputes.
Tariff Decision Told As Team Surprise
- Isaac reads Wiles saying Trump announced tariffs without team unity and it panicked markets.
- That anecdote surprised him and increased his confidence that competent people try to restrain chaotic choices.
Judicial Appointments Are The Durable Win
- Charles C.W. Cooke highlights the judiciary as Trump's biggest lasting success via originalist appointments.
- He credits these judges with rolling back aspects of 'woke' policies and reshaping legal doctrine.