Making Sense with Sam Harris #471 — The End of History, Revisited
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Apr 16, 2026 
Francis Fukuyama, political scientist and author of The End of History, joins for a sharp look at liberal democracy under pressure. They revisit his most misunderstood idea, debate China as a rival model, trace conservatism’s turn toward ethnonationalism, probe the backlash to neoliberalism and identity politics, and touch on antisemitism, Israel, Iran, and Trump-era politics.
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Their Puebla Conference Meeting Felt Surreally Opulent
- Sam Harris recalls first meeting Francis Fukuyama at a lavish conference in Puebla that felt like a Mexican TED.
- Harris jokes that obvious narco traffickers sat in the front row, and Fukuyama notes it was funded by one of Mexico’s richest men.
What The End Of History Actually Claimed
- Francis Fukuyama says The End of History meant history’s destination, not that events would stop happening.
- He argued modernization pointed toward market economies plus liberal democracy, while warning in the book’s last chapters that democracy could still break down.
China Looks Like A Real Rival To Liberal Democracy
- Fukuyama no longer feels certain liberal democracy has definitively won because China now looks like a serious authoritarian alternative.
- He says China pairs quasi-markets with technological innovation, while America looks unstable, yet China’s lack of feedback and responsiveness may become a long-run weakness.
