21 Hats Podcast

We’re Trying to Outgrow the Valley of Death

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Feb 10, 2026
Jackie Russo, marketing CEO focused on AI/SEO-friendly websites and audience targeting. Paul Downs, custom furniture maker who uses portfolio and pricing strategies to qualify buyers. Liz Piccarazzi, CEO scaling a multi-million trash enclosure business rebuilding her site and ops. They talk website rebuilds, tailoring paths for multiple audiences, SEO/AI content needs, pricing transparency, and operational scaling pains.
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ANECDOTE

Paul Launched A Second Targeted Site

  • Paul built a second site with a separate URL to target a different audience without harming existing SEO.
  • The new site gained organic traffic and served as a targeted portfolio for a specific buyer.
ADVICE

Show Clients And Testimonials Everywhere

  • Add an extensive client list and surface testimonials prominently on every page to build trust and social proof.
  • Feed Google reviews into the site and refresh reviews regularly to aid SEO and credibility.
INSIGHT

Three Distinct Website Audiences

  • Your site now has three audiences: humans, Google, and AI, each requiring different considerations.
  • Successful pages must satisfy all three without sacrificing brand voice.
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