
The Dave Chang Show Dry-Aged vs. Wet-Aged Steak, "The Secret," and the American Chef Pantheon With Bill Simmons
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Jan 26, 2026 Bill Simmons, founder and CEO of The Ringer and cultural sports commentator. They spar over dry-aged versus wet-aged steak and cooking techniques. Bill reveals his “secret” about team-first success and talent spotting. They debate the top American chefs and whether filmmakers can be great without filming food.
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30 For 30 Taught Him Team Complexity
- Bill recounts producing 30 for 30 and discovering how many people and roles it takes to make complex projects succeed.
- He highlights how that experience taught him to value behind‑the‑scenes contributors and development paths.
Staying Young Means Staying Curious
- Bill notes aging leaders can lose touch with cultural shifts and miss what's next.
- He warns executives must stay connected to new tastes or risk irrelevance.
Trade Scroll Time For Deep Reading
- Bill recommends deep reading and long-form projects to learn from history and mistakes.
- He suggests limiting phone time because focused work yields deeper insights.




