Vitality Radio Podcast with Jared St. Clair #272: Turtles All The Way Down, Science and Myth with Zoey O'Toole and Mary Holland
Nov 2, 2022
Zoey O'Toole, writer and editor who covered vaccine science, and Mary Holland, attorney and long-time vaccine choice advocate, discuss Turtles All The Way Down. They examine why the childhood vaccine schedule is controversial. They cover legal protections for manufacturers, secrecy and professional risk for critics, data gaps, and how parents can start asking questions.
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Pseudonyms Used To Avoid Backlash
- Zoey O'Toole and others used pen names to avoid professional and social reprisals while discussing vaccines.
- She lost a writing job after public involvement, illustrating the personal cost of questioning orthodoxy.
High Natural Immunity Makes Routine Shots Doubtful
- CDC data showed high natural immunity to COVID in children, making universal annual pediatric COVID shots questionable.
- Mary Holland argues repeated pediatric COVID vaccination risks outweigh limited benefit given existing immunity.
Vaccines As A Growth Industry
- Vaccines are a highly profitable, growing industry with higher margins than many medical products.
- Mary Holland warns vaccines may contribute to chronic disease markets that generate long-term pharmaceutical revenue.
