The Jordan Harbinger Show 1117: Anne Applebaum | Inside The Fortune 500 of Modern Dictatorships
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Feb 18, 2025 
Anne Applebaum, a renowned historian and author specializing in autocracy, dives into the intricate networks among modern dictatorships. She explains how these regimes, like Russia and China, collaborate for financial gain and technological advancement while undermining democratic values. Applebaum highlights the chilling evolution of China's surveillance technology and addresses how slow, insidious declines in democracy catch citizens off guard. She emphasizes the importance of local political engagement to combat polarization and strengthen democratic resilience.
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Modern Autocracies' Disregard for Norms
- Unlike the Soviet Union, modern autocracies like Russia and Belarus openly flout international norms and laws.
- Putin's invasion of Ukraine demonstrates his disregard for international conventions and institutions.
NATO Expansion
- NATO expansion followed perceived Russian threats, with countries like Estonia expressing concerns as early as the 1990s.
- NATO is a defensive alliance, and its growth reflects the fear of Russian aggression, not an eastward power projection.
Ending the War in Ukraine
- The war in Ukraine will end when Russia believes it cannot win, not through negotiated peace plans.
- Putin's goal remains to destroy Ukraine's sovereignty, and any ceasefire without this acknowledgment risks renewal of conflict.
