
Stacking Growth | The B2B Marketing Podcast B2B Growth: Fundamentals and Future
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Nov 4, 2025 Megan Bowen, CEO of Refine Labs, shares her expertise in modern B2B growth, having previously worked at Zocdoc and Grubhub. She discusses the evolution of B2B buying behavior from analog to AI, emphasizing the need for marketing to adapt. Megan also stresses the importance of a data-driven Ideal Customer Profile and developing a strategic narrative for alignment. She introduces the 'Brand, Demand, Expand' model for growth and highlights simplification in measurement, advocating for effective sales and marketing collaboration to drive predictable growth.
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Validate ICP With Real Data
- Validate your ICP with actual customer and pipeline data instead of relying on aspirational definitions.
- Focus your go-to-market on the sweet spot where you can reliably guarantee outcomes and efficient unit economics.
Turn ICP Into A Working Target List
- Operationalize ICP by making a target-account list and distributing it to sales, marketing, and product.
- Execute manual outreach and simple actions consistently to move the list into real pipeline activity.
Strategic Narrative Drives Alignment
- A strategic narrative creates urgency by naming a big change, teasing a promised land, and positioning your company as the guide.
- The CEO must back and repeatedly tell that narrative for it to stick across the org.
