
Mission Matters Podcast Seasats: Scaling Persistent Maritime Autonomy
Sep 11, 2025
Mike Flanigan, CEO of Seasats, builds long-range solar-powered autonomous surface vessels for persistent maritime ISR. He discusses why maritime autonomy is surging, differences between remote-controlled and truly autonomous vessels, contested-environment resilience, hybrid solar power for ocean endurance, trans-Pacific missions, and using fleets as data-producing persistent satellites.
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Conflict Created A Maritime Tipping Point
- The Ukraine war created a tipping point that revealed unmanned surface vessels' strategic value.
- Open conflict relaxed rules and accelerated global attention and adoption of USVs and ASVs.
Autonomy Is Needed For Scale And Persistence
- ASVs (autonomous) differ from USVs (remotely piloted) by operating without human-in-the-loop control.
- Persistence and scale make autonomy essential where comms can be jammed or operators can't watch thousands of vessels.
Quantity Can Compete With Quality
- China leads in mass-manufactured cheap USVs, producing many low-cost systems that still require defense attention.
- Quantity of crude systems can impose real costs on defenders despite lower per-unit sophistication.

