The LRB Podcast

Extinction, Fast and Slow

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Oct 22, 2025
Lorraine Daston, Director Emerita at the Max Planck Institute for the History of Science, dives deep into the complex history of extinction. She discusses how our understanding is skewed by human timescales versus geological epochs. Daston critiques the use of the language of natural selection to justify violence, and she explores the political influences shaping conservation. The conversation also highlights the moral dilemmas of prioritizing species for preservation and the tensions between biodiversity and indigenous rights.
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Science Used To Rationalize Extermination

  • Scientific ideas about extinction were later used to justify colonial violence.
  • Darwin's framing of competition sometimes rationalized dispossession as 'natural'.
INSIGHT

Calling Harm 'Natural' Erodes Accountability

  • Labeling disappearances as 'natural' can paralyze political accountability.
  • Scientific authority can mute protests against colonization and dispossession.
ANECDOTE

Caitlin's Preservation Paradox

  • George Caitlin documented many tribes and campaigned for national parks to 'preserve' them.
  • His proposals unintentionally reduced indigenous land and autonomy.
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