
Thinking in Public with Albert Mohler The Battle for Religious Liberty and Conservatism in a Secular Age — Professor John Wilsey
John Wilsey, church history professor and author on religious freedom and American identity. He discusses conserving religious liberty, grounding conservatism in theism, rightly ordered patriotism rooted in family and history, the tension between tradition and change, and how long horizons and virtue shape cultural resilience.
01:09:55
Manage Change Through Tradition And Law
- Manage change through deliberation, procedure, law, and tradition rather than idolizing change.
- Wilsey contrasts hopeful progressivist slogans like Barack Obama's "change" with a conservative practice of prudential reform.
Hold Immanence And Transcendence Together
- The tension between immanence and transcendence must be held together: permanent truths anchor changing experience.
- Mohler argues without ontological anchors, the eminent frame becomes nihilistic; conservatives must affirm both realms.
Grandfather As Formation For Patriotism
- Wilsey uses his grandfather's influence as the moral and historical foundation of his patriotism.
- He recounts long basement conversations that shaped his conversion and conservative worldview before his grandfather's death.
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Intro
00:00 • 1min
Wilsey's Civilizational Project
01:13 • 2min
Defining Conservatism via Virick
02:50 • 2min
Russell Kirk and Ontological Grounding
05:11 • 1min
Conservatism's Historical Roots
06:37 • 3min
Transcendence and Biblical Theism
09:08 • 3min
Harmony of Religion and Freedom
11:39 • 1min
Augustine as Model for Worldview
12:51 • 45sec
Managing Change vs. Denying Permanence
13:36 • 2min
City of God and the City of Man
15:30 • 2min
Conservative Disposition and Aspiration
17:29 • 2min
Conservatism's Human Faces
19:34 • 3min
Postwar Consensus and the Cold War Reset
22:34 • 4min
Generational Shifts and Cultural Revolt
26:50 • 4min
Patriotism Misunderstood Today
30:40 • 3min
Family, Memory, and Transmission
33:44 • 2min
Patriotism Begins with Family Love
35:31 • 2min
Tradition: Universal Veneration, Critical Particulars
37:57 • 5min
Evaluating Traditions: Horses to Slavery
43:05 • 5min
Conservative Defensive Posture
47:46 • 1min
Long Horizons and Planting Seeds
48:50 • 3min
Technology, Social Velocity, and the River Bed Metaphor
52:09 • 4min
Traditionalist Conservatism vs. Populism
56:20 • 2min
Expertise, Natural Aristocracy, and Virtue
58:12 • 2min
Rightly Ordered Patriotism Requires History
01:00:21 • 3min
Patriotism Against Idolatry and Triviality
01:03:22 • 2min
Conservative Realism, Memento Mori, and Gospel Hope
01:05:26 • 4min
Outro
01:09:11 • 34sec
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God's Cold Warrior

John D. Wilsey
John D. Wilsey's 'God's Cold Warrior: The Life and Faith of John Foster Dulles' examines how Dulles's Protestant faith shaped his approach to international relations during the Cold War. Wilsey analyzes archival material to present a nuanced portrait of Dulles as a religiously motivated statesman, exploring moral convictions and policy decisions.
The biography situates Dulles within mid-20th-century American religious and political cultures, assessing his legacy and complexities.
Wilsey highlights tensions between faith, national security, and moral judgment that defined Dulles's career.
The work contributes to scholarship on religion's role in U.S. foreign policy.
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The Revolution in American Conservatism

David Hackett Fischer
David Hackett Fischer's 'The Revolution in American Conservatism' explores the intellectual and political evolution of conservative thought in America, focusing on figures like the early Federalists.
Fischer analyzes how conservative ideas adapted across American history and the role of elites, expertise, and virtue in public life.
The book offers scholarly insight into conservatism's roots and transformations, which Wilsey uses to contextualize contemporary conservative dispositions.
Fischer combines archival research with narrative history to illuminate pivotal moments and thinkers in conservative development.
The work is cited to contrast elitist and populist tendencies within conservative movements.
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Conservatism: John Adams to Churchill

Peter Viereck
Peter Viereck's 'Conservatism: John Adams to Churchill' traces the development of conservative ideas across Anglo-American and European history.
Viereck highlights figures and themes that shaped conservative responses to modernity and revolution.
The book situates mid-20th-century conservatism within a longer intellectual tradition, emphasizing continuity and moral order.
It served as an influence on later conservative thinkers and is cited by John D. Wilsey in discussing the intellectual roots of modern conservatism.
Viereck's historical approach provides context for understanding conservative dispositions and aspirations.
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The Life and Faith of John Foster Dulles
God's Cold Warrior

John D. Wilsey
John D. Wilsey's 'God's Cold Warrior: The Life and Faith of John Foster Dulles' is a scholarly biography that explores the intersection of Dulles's religious convictions with his influential role in U.S.
Cold War foreign policy.
Wilsey situates Dulles within theological and political contexts, analyzing how his faith shaped his anti-communist stance and diplomatic strategies.
The book assesses Dulles's intellectual formation, career, and legacy within American conservatism and international affairs.
Wilsey draws on archives and historical sources to present a nuanced portrait of a consequential statesman.
The biography highlights themes of religion, morality, and national purpose in Cold War America.
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Unadjusted Man in an Age of Overadjustment

Peter Viereck
In 'Unadjusted Man in an Age of Overadjustment,' Peter Viereck critiques modern society's inclination to over-adapt to technological and social changes, arguing for humanist steadiness.
Viereck draws on literary and philosophical sources to lament dehumanizing effects of unchecked modernization.
The book urges a conservative appreciation for continuity, prudence, and moral restraint amid rapid change.
Wilsey references it to illustrate conservative concerns about technology and cultural speed.
Viereck's epigrammatic style and cultural commentary influenced postwar conservative thought.
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Unadjusted Man
In an Age of Overadjustment

Peter Viereck
Peter Viereck's 'Unadjusted Man in an Age of Overadjustment' critiques the tendency of modern society to excessively adapt to technological and social change at the expense of human flourishing.
Wilsey cites Viereck's opening epigram referencing Thoreau to illustrate how technology can begin to 'ride' us rather than serve human ends.
The book argues for preserving moral and cultural anchors amid rapid modernization.
Viereck's conservative humanism informs Wilsey's broader argument about balancing change with permanence.
The work remains a reference point in mid-20th-century conservative cultural critique.

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• Mentioned in 6 episodes
One nation, under gods

Peter Manseau

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• Mentioned in 17 episodes
Ideas have consequences

Richard Weaver
In 'Ideas Have Consequences,' Richard M. Weaver argues that the decline of Western civilization is a result of the increasing acceptance of relativism over absolute reality.
Despite advancements in knowledge, this shift away from the realist intellectual tradition has weakened Western society's capacity for reason, leading to catastrophic consequences for social order and individual rights.
Weaver proposes a remedy in the renewed acceptance of absolute reality and the recognition that ideas, like actions, have consequences.
The book also includes a foreword by Roger Kimball and an afterword by Ted J. Smith III, providing additional context and insights into Weaver's work and its historical significance.

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• Mentioned in 100 episodes
City of God

Augustine of Hippo
Written between 413-426 CE, 'The City of God' is a response to pagan claims that the sack of Rome by barbarians was a consequence of the abolition of pagan worship by Christian emperors.
Augustine argues that Christianity saved the city from complete destruction and that Rome’s fall was due to internal moral decay.
The book divides humanity into two metaphorical cities: the City of God, characterized by devotion to God, and the City of Man, characterized by self-love.
It also outlines Augustine’s theological interpretation of human history, from the Creation to the Second Coming of Christ, and critiques paganism and pagan philosophy while presenting the true history of the City of God.
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God and Country

Zondervan Publishing Company
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• Mentioned in 6 episodes
The roots of American order


Russell Kirk
In 'The Roots of American Order', Russell Kirk examines the historical and philosophical foundations of American civilization, tracing influences from ancient Jerusalem, Athens, Rome, and London to the American colonies.
The book explores how these influences have contributed to the development of American institutions and ideals, emphasizing the role of religion and tradition in maintaining social order.

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• Mentioned in 21 episodes
The Conservative Mind


Russell Kirk
Published in 1953, *The Conservative Mind* is a landmark book that gave shape to the postwar conservative movement in the United States.
Russell Kirk's work chronicles the history of conservative thought, starting with Edmund Burke and John Adams, and continuing through to 20th-century thinkers like Santayana and T.S.
Eliot.
The book defends traditional conservatism, emphasizing the importance of preserving ancient wisdom present in institutions, culture, and government, and expresses a distrust of 'progress' that seeks to dismantle these repositories of the 'permanent things.
' Kirk's vision of conservatism is rooted in the 'moral imagination' and the Burkean conception of society as an organic, sacred order, advocating for slow and cautious change rather than radical reforms.

#8409
• Mentioned in 6 episodes
The roots of American order


Russell Kirk
In 'The Roots of American Order', Russell Kirk examines the historical and philosophical foundations of American civilization, tracing influences from ancient Jerusalem, Athens, Rome, and London to the American colonies.
The book explores how these influences have contributed to the development of American institutions and ideals, emphasizing the role of religion and tradition in maintaining social order.

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• Mentioned in 12 episodes
Modern Times
A History of the World from the Twenties to the Nineties

Paul Johnson
In this book, Paul Johnson provides an in-depth historical analysis of the 20th century, starting from the aftermath of World War I and ending with the collapse of Communism in Eastern Europe.
The book covers significant events such as the rise of totalitarian regimes, the impacts of World War I and II, the Cold War, and the influence of religion and ideology on politics and society.
Johnson also explores major scientific and technological advancements and their effects on human perception and behavior.
The book is written from a conservative perspective and has been praised for its profound influence on intellectual thinking.
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Conservatism revisited

Peter Viereck
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Religious Freedom

John D. Wilsey
John D. Wilsey's Religious Freedom: A Conservative Primer outlines the historical foundations, philosophical principles, and contemporary challenges to religious liberty in the United States.
Drawing on American history, constitutional development, and Christian political thought, Wilsey argues for the importance of conserving the balance between religion and liberty.
He examines threats coming from both the political left and right and offers a conservative approach to preserving ordered liberty and healthy civic religion.
The book situates religious freedom within a broader framework of tradition, virtue, and cultural participation, urging grassroots cultural engagement rather than top-down authoritarian measures.
It is written for churches, pastors, and conservative readers concerned about the future of religious liberty.
This is Thinking in Public, a program dedicated to intelligent conversation about frontline theological and cultural issues with the people who are shaping them.
In this edition of the popular podcast series “Thinking in Public,” Albert Mohler speaks with Professor of Church History and Philosophy and Chair of the Department of Church History and Historical Theology at Southern Seminary, John Wilsey. They discuss his recent books, “Religious Freedom: A Conservative Primer” and “God and Country: Upholding Faith, History, and National Identity.”
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In this edition of the popular podcast series “Thinking in Public,” Albert Mohler speaks with Professor of Church History and Philosophy and Chair of the Department of Church History and Historical Theology at Southern Seminary, John Wilsey. They discuss his recent books, “Religious Freedom: A Conservative Primer” and “God and Country: Upholding Faith, History, and National Identity.”
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