Adam Carolla Show United States Rep Kevin Kiley Explains Why Dems Defend FRAUD
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May 4, 2026 Kevin Kiley, U.S. Representative from California and attorney, discusses California policy and accountability. He tackles waste, fraud, and systemic incentives that enable abuse. They debate SNAP rules, school nutrition, and the failed high-speed rail project. Conversation covers LA politics, homelessness solutions, and whether voters will demand real reform.
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Waste Fraud Trumps Partisan Divides
- Waste, fraud, and abuse are unifying voter issues across party lines.
- Kevin Kiley says politicians who try to hide fraud (like shielding records) raise suspicion they enabled it, citing high-speed rail secrecy attempts.
California's Unemployment Fraud Catastrophe
- California suffered roughly $30+ billion in unemployment fraud during the pandemic and the state largely ignored federal advice to stop it.
- Kevin Kiley calls it perhaps the biggest waste of taxpayer dollars in U.S. history and says it remains rampant today.
Incentives Create Widespread Gaming
- Misaligned incentives turn ordinary people into participants in fraud when programs pay for outcomes.
- Adam Carolla illustrates hospitals overcoding COVID and people obtaining service-animal notes to game rules for convenience.