When Canada’s Prime Minister Mark Carney stepped onto the stage at the World Economic Forum in Davos , no-one expected him to set the world on fire. His speech went viral, as he talked of the rupture to the rules-based order and called on middle powers to step up. “If we’re not at the table, we're on the menu,” he said. He never mentioned Donald Trump’s name, but his message was clear. He was there to garner support from countries equally alarmed by a United States gone rogue. His speech came fresh off the back of a visit to Xi Jinping in China and he was keen to sell Canada’s virtues to the Davos crowd as well. So what is he up to?
- Guest: Ian Austen, The New York Times Canada Correspondent
- Producer: Catherine Zengerer