
The Joe Rogan Experience #2076 - Aza Raskin & Tristan Harris
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Dec 19, 2023 Aza Raskin, co-founder of the Center for Humane Technology, and Tristan Harris, its other co-founder and a tech ethicist, tackle the ethical implications of AI and technology. They discuss the fascinating breakthroughs in decoding whale and dolphin communication through AI while critiquing the addictive nature of tech-driven algorithms. The conversation also highlights the urgent need for regulations around AI's rapid advancement and its impacts on society, democracy, and children, stressing the importance of responsible governance.
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Inventing Infinite Scroll
- Aza Raskin reflects on inventing infinite scroll, initially for blog posts and search results.
- He was unaware of its potential misuse in social media's attention economy.
Three Laws of Technology
- Raskin proposes three laws of technology: new tech brings new responsibilities; power starts races; uncoordinated races end in tragedy.
- These laws highlight the need for foresight and coordination in technological development.
The 2017 AI Shift
- A 2017 shift in AI, using transformers, led to emergent behavior.
- AI models now develop unexpected capabilities simply by scaling data and compute.


