Shameless Popery #213 My Response to Redeemed Zoomer’s “14 Catholic Contradictions” - Joe Heschmeyer
Oct 7, 2025
A detailed reply examines three alleged theological contradictions and why many claims hinge on misread sources. Discussion covers Latin versus vernacular in the Mass and how context changed practice. Communion in one or both kinds gets historical scrutiny. The episode traces conciliarism, the Great Western Schism, and how councils’ authority and dicta differ from binding doctrine.
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Standards For Charity-Driven Replies
- Hold reply standards: judge critiques by understanding central thesis and focusing on arguments, not rhetoric.
- Joe Heschmeyer lists five standards (understand thesis, avoid ad hominem, seek truth, focus content, pursue unity) to assess replies fairly.
High Bar For Declaring A Real Contradiction
- Require a high bar for alleged contradictions: surface-level oddities often have reconciling interpretations.
- Joe warns that apparent contradictions (e.g., Trinity) can be explained by proper theological distinctions and sources.
Mass Language Is Prudential Not Dogmatic
- Trent's claim that Novus Ordo must be vernacular is factually wrong; the Novus Ordo can be celebrated in Latin.
- Joe cites the General Instruction of the Roman Missal explaining Trent denied vernacular then Vatican II permitted vernacular by prudential judgment.