Off The Grid: Leaving Social Media 🍁 Reclaiming Your Magic Online & Offline — with Casey Zabala of Modern Witches
Oct 29, 2025
Casey Zabala, author, artist, and founder of Modern Witches, shares her journey of transforming spirituality into a career. She discusses her decision to leave social media, citing energy drain and online toxicity. Casey delves into self-publishing her tarot deck and creating community anthologies, highlighting collaboration’s challenges and triumphs. They also explore the significance of reaching out to traditional publishers and the nuances of balancing creative work with personal limits. Her insights encourage listeners to reclaim their magic in both online and offline spaces.
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Trade Income For Creative Space
- If self-distribution drains you, negotiate with a publisher or wholesaler to reclaim creative space.
- Be willing to trade some income for reduced operational load when needed.
A Turbulent, Sold-Out Launch
- The first Witches Confluence in 2018 sold out and drew thousands to the marketplace.
- The launch included controversy over a speaker labeled TERF that forced Casey to de-platform them for community safety.
Depth Over Surface Positivity
- Deep spiritual community work requires holding difficult conversations, not surface-level positivity.
- Inclusion and wrestling with harms create richer, more meaningful gatherings.
