From joining the US RANGERS after 9/11 and serving with Pat Tillman to War Resistance - Rory Fanning

In this conversation, Jay Shapiro sits down with Rory Fanning, a former U.S. Army Ranger who served alongside Pat Tillman before becoming a war resister, educator, and outspoken critic of U.S. empire. Rory recounts his journey from elite military training and the mythology of manhood sold through recruitment. What began as a rite of passage, a test of courage and loyalty, slowly revealed itself as something else entirely.They talk about standing up to bullies, and what happens when you realize the bully wears your own uniform. The conversation ranges from the lies of the War on Terror to Israel–Palestine, from Pat Tillman’s legacy to Johnny Got His Gun, and from obedience to conscience. At its core, this is a story about transformation and redefining masculinity outside of domination and figuring out who the real freedom fighters are.00:00 Coming Up…01:35 Dilemma Podcast in 202603:17 Intro to Rory Fanning - Pat Tillman and Military Ads07:28 The Military and Ideas of Manhood09:24 Fathers, Sons, and Being Tough11:45 9/11 and Joining the Rangers13:33 Going To Afghanistan16:16 Confidence and a Military Recruitment Ad20:49 Doubting the Mission24:14 Addicted to The Rush28:07 Rory Meets Pat and Kevin Tillman29:29 Becoming a War Resister33:00 Religion and Resistance37:42 The Costs of Resisting40:40 The “B!tch” of the Unit and Pat Tillman Coverup45:16 The Brothers in Arms and the Cult50:44 Walking Across America54:00 The Original Question, Why Did 9/11 Happen?57:53 The Hypocrisy of the Empire and The Israel Issue1:06:53 Resisters Around the World1:09:21 What Aaron Bushnell Meant to The World1:12:57 War versus Resistance to War1:20:12 So, How Do You Become a “Man” and What’s Next?1:26:17 The Ancient Ritual of Walking to Find Yourself1:29:20 Johnny Got His Gun and The Palestine Baseball TeamCollection of military recruitment ads:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0JGV0RYwsshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62tnJtLBQzQhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_OCDJIT344https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LqL_dRwRGXghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4hKXrgLH9Ahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xClLofqNYYchttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkwSbamEbqEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6xFB6lPlpQhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OQ2KGiOuW0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMkLWNh37cIhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4B_TlHJq1-4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Edykj6fpRm4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVOdAPWxvz4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpmgPuidFb4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FuSqpMnXvv8Palestine Baseball Team:https://www.baseballunited.com/teams/national/palestinehttps://www.instagram.com/baseballpalestine/?hl=enhttps://x.com/PalFedBaseballhttps://newlinesmag.com/spotlight/amid-death-and-destruction-palestines-baseball-dreams-survive/BECOME A MEMBER - MONTHLY MEMBERS ONLY LIVESTREAM https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5NIku35U9thGG9WBJjE0sw/joinFor more from Jay visit whatjaythinks.com