
Cloud Security Podcast Adapting to New Threats, Copilot Risks & The Future of Data (Feat. Matthew Radolec, Varonis)
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Jun 3, 2025 Matthew Radolec leads systems engineering and incident response at Varonis, passionately dedicated to data protection. He delves into the surge of AI-driven phishing and the risks posed by tools like Copilot. The conversation highlights the alarming statistic that 86% of attacks stem from credential misuse and discusses the rising threat of AI-powered social engineering. Radolec emphasizes the critical need for robust access management and proactive measures in a landscape increasingly dominated by AI, ensuring data integrity amidst evolving challenges.
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Measure AI Success and Failure
- Measure AI success by comparing outcomes against established metrics to ensure gains.
- Monitor for increased false positives or negatives to avoid hurting business with AI decisions.
Data Protection Techniques Resurge
- Masking, tokenization, and encryption will become crucial to protect sensitive data feeding AI models.
- Businesses must balance moving fast with limiting sensitive data exposure in AI training.
AI Model Security Responsibility
- AI model security responsibility lies mostly with developers, not consumers.
- Consumers cannot fix flaws in models like logic and reasoning errors on their own.

