The New Music Business with Ari Herstand

Suno and Udio SUED By Indie Musicians - The Lead Attorney Tells All

Oct 8, 2025
In this enlightening discussion, Miss Krystle, an entertainment attorney and CEO of Delgado Entertainment Law, takes the spotlight. As the lead counsel in the class-action lawsuits against AI music platforms Suno and Udio, she unveils the legal intricacies of AI in music creation. Listen in as she explains the implications of copyright registration, outlines the lawsuits' allegations of unlawful scraping, and shares strategies for independent artists to safeguard their rights. Krystle emphasizes the importance of DIY monetization and protecting one’s creative work in the ever-evolving music landscape.
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INSIGHT

Model Outputs Can Be Too Faithful

  • AI outputs can reproduce original elements—samples, lookalikes, or performative likenesses—creating potential direct infringement.
  • Expert analysis (e.g., audiologists) will be needed to evaluate whether outputs copy training works.
ANECDOTE

Timbaland Example Shows Derivatives In Practice

  • Timbaland appears as Suno's creative advisor and publicly demonstrated creating a derivative from someone else's beat.
  • Miss Krystle used that real example to illustrate how Suno workflows can produce derivative works without permission.
INSIGHT

Class Certification Drives Settlement Pressure

  • The Anthropic authors' case moved fast and achieved class certification, forcing a large settlement.
  • Rapid precedent and certification can compel expensive settlements for AI companies.
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