The Best People with Nicolle Wallace MS NOW Presents: Clock It with Symone and Eugene
Feb 5, 2026
Two former White House figures turn their off-air groupchat into a show that tracks where politics and pop culture collide. They riff on everything from halftime shows and celebrity fashion to social media moments that shift narratives. Expect sharp, lively takes that point out who is borrowing culture and why it matters.
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From Rivalry To Partnership
- Symone Sanders-Townsend and Eugene Daniels have known each other for over a decade from Washington circles.
- They recall being at odds when Eugene covered Symone's then-boss, Vice President Kamala Harris, illustrating their past friction.
Politics Lives Outside The Beltway
- Eugene Daniels and Symone Sanders-Townsend turned a past reporter-staffer rivalry into a collaborative lens on politics and culture.
- They argue that cultural spaces like TikTok and runways now host consequential political maneuvering.
Politicians Steal Culture To Signal Power
- Symone and Eugene note politicians borrow music, slang, and aesthetics to appear relevant and powerful.
- Tracking these borrowings reveals who is 'hijacking' culture and why it matters politically.