This was recorded on Monday, Nov. 3, 2025 but I wanted to hold it until today because TODAY, Nov. 7, the Supreme Court justices are meeting behind closed doors to decide whether to take a swing at marriage equality again; a longshot bid that’s rattling advocates and testing the Court’s promise to leave Obergefell untouched.
I talked with
Sophia Zoe Kilmer, attorney and human rights activist, about the impact this could have, how you can take measures to protect your marriage and your gender identity and how to prepare for what could come next.