The Rollup Rollup TV: Money Moves Fast EP #3 & zkVerify
Sep 30, 2025
Ran Goldie, VP of Payments at Fireblocks, dives into the nuances of stablecoin payments and the challenges facing banks in adopting blockchain technology. He highlights the immense $200B monthly stablecoin flows, driven by B2B cross-border payments and payroll. Meanwhile, John Camerado, founder of ZK Verify, shares insights about their mainnet launch, discussing ZK proofs in gaming and how they enable trustless verification in payments and trading. Together, they illuminate the future of digital payments and verification on decentralized networks.
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Add Reconciliation Tools For Bank Adoption
- Build programmatic identity and verification into stablecoin flows to enable bank‑grade reconciliations and dispute handling.
- Provide reversible or governed dispute primitives so banks and merchants accept on‑chain rails.
Provable Fair Gambling Demos
- John built provable gambling demos: a slot machine proving fair RNG and a blackjack proving a fully randomized deck.
- The demos used ZK proofs so players can verify servers didn't cheat without revealing secret state.
ZK Proofs Extend Far Beyond Games
- ZK proofs scale beyond gaming: private payments, confidential trading strategies, and agent verification are natural high‑value use cases.
- Verifiers must be cheap and specialized to handle exploding proof volume.