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CNLP 784 | Leadership is NOT Lonely! Henry Cloud on Founderitis and Why You're More In Control Than You Think

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Feb 10, 2026

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Henry Cloud

Henry Cloud, clinical psychologist and leadership expert known for bestselling books on leadership and boundaries, tackles why leadership should not be lonely. He explores founderitis and why leaders cling too long. He argues leaders have more control than they think. He outlines practical steps for building responsibility, avoiding overreach, and creating honest support networks.

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Personal Move: Prioritizing Spousal Well‑being

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Build External Networks and Paid Development

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Balance Grace and Truth with Performance

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Your Desired Future

The Five Essential Steps That Take You Where You Want to Go

Henry Cloud

The New York Times bestselling author of Boundaries outlines a profound framework combining psychology, physiology, and neuroscience to move from your current state to a desired future. It introduces five essential components—Vision, Talent & Resources, Strategy & Plan, Measurement & Accountability—for success in leadership, relationships, or personal change. Personable and proactive, the book serves as a guidebook with Dr. Cloud's characteristic heart for a new generation on life's long road.

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Necessary Endings

The Employees, Businesses, and Relationships That All of Us Have to Give Up in Order to Move Forward

Henry Cloud

In 'Necessary Endings', Henry Cloud challenges readers to identify and end unhealthy relationships, businesses, and practices that hinder personal and professional growth. The book emphasizes that endings are a natural part of life and necessary for moving forward. Cloud provides practical advice on making tough decisions, using metaphors like pruning a rose bush to illustrate the need for intentional endings to allow for new beginnings and growth. The book is designed to help readers achieve the personal and professional growth they desire by proactively correcting the bad and the broken in their lives and businesses.

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Boundaries

When to Say Yes, How to Say No to Take Control of Your Life

Dr. John Townsend

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In this book, Drs. Henry Cloud and John Townsend provide biblically-based answers to help readers set healthy boundaries with their spouses, children, friends, parents, co-workers, and even themselves. The authors discuss how to establish clear personal property lines, manage digital life, and address common questions about setting boundaries. The book aims to help readers achieve a balanced lifestyle by understanding and implementing healthy boundaries in all areas of life.

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Why I Believe

Henry Cloud

In this book, Dr. Henry Cloud leads readers through his personal journey of faith, sharing his early struggles with illness and depression and the miraculous experiences that healed him. Written in the vein of books like 'An Unquiet Mind', 'When Breath Becomes Air', and 'On Being Mortal', 'Why I Believe' is a masterwork in spiritual exploration. Dr. Cloud combines masterful storytelling with a nuanced understanding of the human mind to explore the great questions of life, suffering, and faith, making it a groundbreaking and uplifting read.

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Boundaries for Leaders

Henry Cloud

Henry Cloud explains why leadership is not lonely, or at least, shouldn't be.

Plus, we discuss why founders hang on too long and why leaders have far more control than you think!

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