The Koerner Office - Business Ideas and Deep Dives with Chris Koerner Learn AI Automations Before You’re Replaced by Them ⏐ Ep. #192
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Jul 7, 2025 
In this conversation with Michael Shimeles, an AI enthusiast and builder, listeners discover how non-developers can dive into the world of AI automations. Michael shares insights on using tools like Claude and ChatGPT for powerful outcomes without needing technical skills. He emphasizes the value of building projects to sharpen your edge. The chat also includes tips on integrating AI into industry-specific solutions, enhancing design for better user experience, and simplifying workflows with innovations like the Multimodal Communication Protocol.
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Agentic AI Is Emerging
- True agentic AI workflows remain rare; most automations are gluing tools together.
- Cloud Code shows promise by iterating until tasks are done correctly, hinting at future agentic AI.
Automate Small Tasks First
- Use tools like N8N and Gumloop to chain simple tasks and start automating daily repetitive tasks.
- Focus on fun and gradual learning; expect errors and fix them rather than expecting perfect outcomes at first.
AI Pizza Ordering Chatbot
- Michael built an AI pizza ordering chatbot that interfaces with Domino's unofficial API for personal use.
- It collects order info via conversation, stores it in a DB, then calls the API to complete the order.