After multiple patrons and listeners requested, we sat down and watched Tusk on Netflix. We regretted our decision.
This film is all blubber and no craft. Kevin Smith proves his limitations with this failure of a body horror film. In this Tusk Review episode we break down what went wrong and what went right with the execution.
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Tusk Movie Synopsis
This horror movie is brought to you by the same guy that brought you Yoga Hosers and Cop Out. He now brings you a body horror movie based on a joke craigslist personal ad. In Tusk, Justin Long, plays Walrus, I mean Wallace Bryton, who runs a podcast with friend Teddy Craft (Haley Joel Osmond). Their podcast is mostly based off of making fun of internet cringe videos, and as such, Wallace flies to Canada to interview this movie universes equivalent of the Star Wars kid.
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When Wallace arrives, he finds out that unfortunately, his interviewee has killed himself. Desperate to find material for their upcoming episode, Wallace then discovers a bizarre personal ad in the bathroom stall of a bar. He goes to meet an enigmatic retired seaman named Howard Howe played by Michael Parks. Mr Howard tells tale of his adventures at sea and of a particular shipwreck where he was miraculously saved by a passing walrus. Before long, Wallace finds himself drugged and captive to Howardās twisted plot to recreate his walrus savior at Wallaceās expense.
Short Review of Tusk
Sound interesting? Itās not.
Tusk is what you get when you make a movie based on a joke. The premise is entertaining enough for a fake trailer, but not a feature length film, and definitely not with Smith at the helm. I expected a lot more, but the commitment and budget did not pull off the intense and twisted body horror tale necessary to hold my attention. It was shot in 15 days with $3 million and it somehow feels more rushed and cheaper than that.
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Instead of focusing on the dread of slowly being turned into a Walrus, Smith focused on creating a panoply of redundant characters delivering redundant dialogue at length. For a body horror film, there is very little care given to the design and shooting of the actual body horror. Smith blows his load halfway through the film and really has nowhere to go after that.
Score for Tusk Movie
2/10
Origin of the Idea of Tusk
The movie is based on a fake ad from Chris Parkinson from Brighton, England. He offered free rent to anyone willing to dress in a walrus suit and pretend to be the animal for two hours a day.
The advert was a hoax, but after Smith discussed it on his Smodcast podcast with co-host Scott Mosier, he began to think about mull the idea of turning it into a feature film.
āSomething snapped in my brain, and itās only happened one other time in my life.ā That other time was 20 years ago, when āI wondered why people didnāt make movies about me and my friends talking about movies and pussy and āStar Wars.ā So I did, and it was āClerks,āā Smith said.
The Good Elements of Tusk
Michael Parks is undeniably, a great actor, and he gets to display his talents well in this movie. Kevin Smith states that he wrote the film specifically for Parks, and wouldnāt make it without him.
My favorite moments in the film were him doing a little delighted dance watching his victim, and him yelling ferociously as a whining Justin Long.
Spoilers for Tusk
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The first thing you need to know about this film is that director Kevin Smith is a bullshitter, and he writes like a bullshitter. All of his characters sound like bullshitters, and itās bullshit.
Much of this film is taken up with repetitive dialogue and unnecessary exposition.
Kevin Smithās Failures
The direction on this film is truly terrible. Arbitrary flashbacks, forecasted super obvious plot twists, and terrible pacing marred the movie. But the real tragedy is the fundamental misunderstanding about what makes a body horror film work: dread, and disgust.
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In terms of storytelling. the movie blows its load way too early. No care is given to extending out the dread or body transformation.
The main spoiler of the film is that Howard Howe surgically transforms Wallace into a Walrus.
The Walrus-Man Reveal
The reveal is terrible. It looks so much worse than I expected. If you were to imagine in your mind a human surgically turned into a walrus, take that idea, but then think of what a cosplayer of that idea at a Topeka, Kansas comi-con would look like. Thatās along the lines of what the walrus-man looks like.

Smith made the worst possible decision, and decided to show the Walrus in flat medium to wide shots for the rest of the film.

A note to future budget filmmakers: if you have a terrible cheap looking monster design, go the Jaws route and donāt show it.
Mocking Canadians. Lamely
Instead, what Smith focused his story on is lame humor mocking Canadians. Remember that Canadians say āabootā and āehā? Well, too bad, Kevin Smith is going to remind you how hilarious that is for an hour and 45 minutes.
Johnny Depp is in this film, and exercises a ridiculous, yet still unfunny French Canadian accent.

The only real reason that Johnny is in this movie is because his daughter along with Smithās daughter play clerks in a Canadian mini mart.

One of the most interesting scenes is probably the one where Depp and Parks play opposite each other and compete to see how much of the scenery each of them can eat.
The ending features a fight to the death between Howard Howe in a Walrus suit and Wallace as the transformed Walrus monstrosity. Long wins. Who cares?
In the epilogue, Wallace is shown being visited by his former girlfriend and former podcast co-host who then toss him a fish to eat.
Final Recommendations
I canāt in good conscience recommend this movie. It is streaming on Netflix right now, so if you already have a subscription, you could watch it for free. However, you could save a lot of time by just fast forwarding to the scene where Wallace meets Howard, and the scene with the transformation reveal. Everything else is unfunny blubber.
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A cast from Davide, another podcast about positivity. Today we got a great show, David, What do you think? Weāve got a great show today. We got the best show, and one will be talking about us seemingly made for TV movie. Weāll be given a brief review and our score for the movie we scored on a scale of 1 to 10 1 being a miserable dread that make you angry. Five. Be an average film that hits all the expected marks and 10 being so good at transcends genre boundaries. What are those? I donāt know. Those are big words. After we give our score, weāll get into spoilers and take a deeper dive into what we liked and hated about the food fil film move movie. My takeaway on this Is that your impression of professional radios? Are they are they? They talk so quickly that there nearly in conference about youāre just like Oh my God, thereās words coming at me quickly. Most most radio personalities probably enunciate. Thatās thatās where theyāve got me. So, um, take a deeper dive in the light. What we like to hate about every move leader will be doing taglines choked on my coffee. Uh, would you be doing taglines and horror movie news? Oh God, those other podcasts that like our super high energy and itās just one person talking after the other over. I just started listening toe last podcast on the left. They have, like the series on the Mormon religion, and itās just like back. I donāt know if itās the editing or theyāre just like each just waiting to spring on each other after someone finishes a sentence. Yeah, yeah, I mean, itās a strange thing. Itās like what you grew up listening to write, which is, like, for me. Itās Stern and Opie and Anthony and neither of those format and then Adam Corolla, you know, And none of those formats were ever, like, jump on you. Yeah, it somehow like there was there was like, thereās, like, a couple different echelons of radio, you know? And the echelon right below the the one that I like, Uh, which is, you know, just a talk variety. Our kind of thing is, you know, a professional deejay, right? Or just like a morning zoo. Yeah. Lower morning zoo. Exactly where itās just like, Good Lord. Are you insane? And the answer is kind of Yeah, yeah. Anyways, weāll have to do I Thatās weāll have to build up endurance. I think thatās a far as I can go today. I Yeah, I mean my sphincters a little wobbly after itās itās alarming having you and you havenāt even talked having you know itās alarming because your energy is palpable and itās not normal. Normally thereās a little bit of, ah, black hole on that, Andi. So Iām Ah, so right now Iām Iām a little overwhelmed. Okay, Um, so letās letās get into the movie. Um, I just want Yeah, my levels were right. So after multiple patrons and listeners requested, we sat down and watched Tusk. Yes, we did. Yes, we did. Itās available for free streaming on Netflix, and we regret our decision. What the fuck is the matter with you? People like you think we arenāt gonna go hard in the paint on you? We will wage war. All right, hereās the trailer. Always do sober. What you do drunk. Iām gonna teach you to keep your mouth shut up. Hemingway said that? Yes, he did. He said it to me. I donāt want you to go to Canada. Its form for the podcast. Itās what I do. I travel around and I interview weird or interesting people. So look out, you crazy. Canucks 100. Wallace takes a raunchy road trip up to the great White North. Hello. I have an old man who has enjoyed a long and storied life at sea and after e owns oceanic adventure. I know. I do not wish to spend my remaining years alone. Why have stories to share? How far is by frost from here? Itās about two hours from here to a dude two hours away. Hate American guys. Good evening. Nice to meet you. Could I interest you in some tea? So what happened after the boat sank? I was alone. Iām dead or something. Very swift and frightening. Moved by me. A walrus saved your life. The walrus is far more evolved in any man present company included. Thank you. Youāre welcome. There, there. And we all ride Mr Tough. He hasnāt called me in three days. Iām worried. What? You really morning your humanity. I donāt understand the hell I want to be human back. Wait, So I think Yeah, watching that trailer reminded me why I wanted to see the movie. Because the trailer is actually pretty great. It looks like a very promising movie because it doesnāt show you. Oh, man. So this is this is a hit piece. This podcast right now, if youāre a huge fan of task Well, first of all, I donāt know if we can be friends. Yeah, second of all, weāre going to tell you why youāre wrong. Tusk is a horror movie brought to you by the same day that brought you yoga, hosers and cop out. He now brings you a body horror movie based on a joke. Craigslist personal ad. Justin Long plays walrus. I mean Wallace Brighton, who runs a podcast with friend Teddy Craft, played by Haley Joel Osmond. You remember him right there. Podcast is mostly based off of making fun of Internet cringe videos, and as such, Wallace flies to Canada to interview this movies. This movie universe is equivalent of the Star Wars kid. When Wallace arrives, he finds out, hilariously that his interview he has killed himself. Desperate to find material for their upcoming episode, Wallace discovers a bizarre personal ad in the bathroom stall of a bar, which is normally like a really good idea to respond to personal ads inside shady bars. Yeah, no, but this didnāt work out too great for him. He goes to meet an enigmatic, retired seamen named Howard. How semen way. Weāre no better than the movie now played by Michael Parks. Mr Howard tells tale of his adventures at sea and of a particular shipwreck where he was miraculously saved by a passing walrus before long wallet walrus. Before long, Wallace finds himself drug and captive to Howardās twisted plot to recreate his walrus savior at Wallaceās expense. Sound interesting? Itās not. Iām so irritated. Iām so fucking irritated right now. The fact that he named him Wallace like that just it Zez everything you need to know right there. What you just name be. Well, weāre going to turn him into a walrus, so it should probably name Wallace. At the very least, it should have been the last name Ready Should been like Robert Wallace. Test is what you get when you make a movie based on a joke. The premises entertaining enough for a fake trailer but not a feature length film. And definitely not when Kevin Smith is at the helm. I was expecting a lot more, but the commitment and budget wasnāt there. To pull off an intense and twisted body horror tale. The film was shot in 15 days with $3 million it somehow feels more rushed and cheaper than that. Iāll give him credit. 50 days is pretty quick. 15 days is very, very quick. Ah, the Itās impressive the talent that he was able to pull in, I assume, just with his name. Yeah, but, man, I Iād be surprised if he was able to do it again. This is a one and done kind of thing because anybody who catches wind of this well, he had already here and he pulled in Michael Parks for Red State. And he basically said that you wouldnāt make this film unless Michael Parkes played Howard. Um, and then Johnny Depp somehow got in this. The thing I found out is that those clerks in the minute mark the Canadian minute mark were Kevin Smithās daughter and Johnny Deppās daughter. So I wonder how much itās like just a Johnny have time wanting to do something with his daughter. Yeah, you know, I donāt know if youāre going to get to the fact that this is part of, ah, like a light trilogy. Not really. I mean, yeah, so itās kind of like a Canadian trilogy, and I canāt imagine how unspeakably unfunny the other ones are. But thereās yoga Hosers. Thereās Tusk. And then thereās, um, most tooth or something like that. Something to be released? Yeah, thereās like Moose jars. Something with Moose. Yeah, okay, because Canada. So instead of focusing on the dread of slowly spoilers being turned into a walrus, Smith focuses on creating a panoply of redundant characters. Theyāre delivering redundant dialogue at length for a body horror film. Thereās very little care given to the design and the shooting of the actual body horror. Shockingly, shockingly, A Smith blows his load halfway through the film and really has nowhere to go after that. Itās truly itās like itās shocking. Itās astounding that heās, I mean, heās not a bad story teller. No, heās specifically a good storyteller. But I mean, does follow That guy does is the reveal is so bad. Itās just so bad. And then youāre just like, Oh, thatās Thatās it, like thatās where thatās what weāve got for this film. And then itās just like all right now on to the interesting part. And letās be clear, hilarious detective work, clean chewing Johnny Depp And letās be clear, I was excited about this movie like I was like, Yeah, Tusk Letās go. Yeah, I wanted to see this one for a while. Itās one of those that youāre like. Iāve heard about it like everybody has been, like, really seared that. Yeah, Iām really curious about it. See, thatās the thing. I havenāt heard people talk about it, and thatās usually what keeps me from seeing it. Like Iāll look at the trailer and say, This looks very interesting. Iām putting that on my cue. Who? But the thing that tips me over the edge to actually watching it is if someone mentions it in a good light. And I donāt think Iāve ever heard anyone rave about the film or say that it was actually work worth watching. But now that we have a horror movie podcast, everyone wants this. Submit our time and brains, too. Yeah, the stuff that well, thereās a few things going on there, right? Like Okay, first of all, first of all, that thereās a few reasons why I think people referred the US to this movie and and I would like to point out that no one has has referred to me going. Youāll love it. There just been like they wanted to hear what we say. You please watch this. And then they slap it down on the table and slide it across to us and their eyes have some sort of weird, fucked up fire behind him. And weāre like, Okay, but so and then also, this is a movie about podcasters. All right, so now weāre getting a little meta with the people suggesting right? Hey, you should watch this horror movie about podcasters you horror movie podcast hosts. And so now weāre in too deep and and oh, man, I just had such high expectations because partially because of, like, the aftereffect, the afterglow that I had I still have for movies like Dogma and Clerks and you know, all my middle school chuckle fest bust, a nut and sort of sophomoric humor from Kevin Smith. I love a lot of Kevin Smith movies, but this is just unbelievably poorly done. Yeah, he is is not in his wheelhouse. Letās just say that Yeah, he should be ashamed. Even even more recent ones that have been better. Not great, but actually interesting, at the very least, So red state was pretty good. That one with, um, Mallrats. No, not Mallrats. Whatās the other one? There is Red State and the one that just the guy. I was pissed off it. Rude people. Yeah, I donāt know. I canāt write that oneās called anyways. Like Kevin Smith is hit or miss in my mind. Sometimes he tries to overstep his boundaries and try to be a little more ambitious than he has the capacity for. This is definitely one of those. Yes, this is pretty clear. Like I kept kept coming back to the saying, Oh, heās trying to be a Quentin Tarantino in this, right? Like heās trying to write dialogue like pithy dialogue, but he has no idea what that looks like. He just has no idea. He just canāt. Yeah, thatās my first point when we get into the spoilers. Um ah, but letās talk about our score for the movie. Um, so with all that being said, all that being said, this was see, I was rested for this, like normally if I give like a really low scores because like, I just wasnāt paying attention because I was so tired. But this one, I I put down a three, and then I changed it to a two because Iām like, What? What was? I didnāt laugh at all in this movie. I might have laughed once unintentionally for an unintentional like funny thing. Just like, What are you doing? Like what the fuck not like, Wow, thatās shocking. Or thatās over the top. Itās just like, Wow, thatās really inept. But for the most part, I just got angry that the dialogue was so redundant and so repetitive and it was just It was really bad. It was bad. Now, now thereās a little bit of a letdown factor to this, right? This is not true. This is not a terrible, terrible, terrible movie. I understood in that I understood what was happening at any given point, right? So it makes sense in so far as what is trying to make sense at. Itās just a Itās just a ah slapdash movie put together by a notable filmmaker. Yeah, and a notable film maker who has a lot of feels from my childhood attached to him and a lot of expectation from me. So in that regard, itās not a normal too. But I wouldnāt say youāre wrong because with great responsibility, with great power comes great responsibility. Kevin Smith. You should know this comic book enthusiast, slash writer, and I know D. C is more your thing, but, you know, you can you can take a little card out a spider manās book. Thank you. So, yeah, I donāt have a strong opinion on this, which is probably more damning than anything. Thatās like, I donāt give a shit what what we rate. This is definitely a a three. Definitely a three. Yeah, itās just a let down. Yeah, I think I think the thing that pushed me over the edge from a 3 to 2 is, um, the dialogue is truly, like boring. Itās so good. Itās so the pacing is so bad, itās very bad. And then an utterly fails at the genre of body horror up like it just does a very, very bad job falls flat on its face. It didnāt the The idea that this is Bodie whore is absurd. It itās itās body horror in husk like thatās the husk that this comes out in. But then it doesnāt do anything with the body horror genre. There is no man. I mean, I think about it. Itās not like you didnāt try and that thereās not, like the elements that are You would expect to be there, but theyāre just pulled off so bad. Yeah, like the transition just happened way too quick. Quick. Thereās no meat on those bones on that transition from, like, All right, now itās happening. Your metamorphosis. The supposed to be the culmination of the whole movie. All the interesting stuff. All right. Okay. Throw that sock away. Yeah. Uh, yeah. Heās focuses so much time and energy on dialogue on unlike jokey, like tired, stereotypical jokes. And Jason Muse isnāt even in it. Like like, if youāre going to do that, at least have somebody whoās strange and interesting to watch. Do it? Yeah. You donāt think Johnny Depp is strange and interesting? Itās not that I donāt think Johnny Depp is strange and interesting. No, I donāt think Charlie to have a situation interesting, actually, now that you mention it. Okay. So, uh, letās move on to spoilers. All right, so weāve already talked about it, But there was one observation that I made about Kevin Smithās dialogue style. And if youāve listened to Kevin Smith tell stories for his podcast you mean you sh mod cast. You should know Kevin Smith is a bullshitter. Heās one of those guys that can tell a story that captivates your attention. But if you step back, you realize that itās a lot of unnecessary information. Itās just a lot of color and not a lot of substance, necessarily right. And if you step back here like, oh, so youāre just youāre just kind of being awkward. Yeah, thatās thatās the takeaway. If you if you sift it, sift through all the bullshit is that itās a very normal occurrence that happened. Well, you have. You have in, like, one paragraph. Youāve stripped him totally nude. Did it? Can you imagine how awkward something I donāt know. Maybe heās so good at Deflection and that kind of thing that that this you know, if he heard your words, if he heard you say those things and they rang totally true, he would he would say, Oh, yeah, thatās absolutely 100% correct. Are you kidding me? Thatās me. Yes, of course itās me. Everybody knows thatās me. Good job, professor. And itās like, um so as such. He heās a screenwriter that writes like a bullshitter. Yeah, so all of his character sound like bullshit? Erās. And in this circumstance, itās bullshit. Well said, Um, heās not. So hereās the difference between Quentin Tarantino and canāt believe Kevin Smith. Theyāre both very, very good talkers. Thatās Tran. Theyāre both homely, homely, issue gentlemen, or have spent a good part of their life being not good, looking enough for the women that they would like to have right. Much like a lot of people. I donāt know if Kevin Smith likes to fuck feet, but I wouldnāt be surprised. Um, but Quintero, both of them when theyāre writing the dialogue and the characters speaking the dialogue, are prone to sound like them. Like Quentin Tarantino, script sounds like Quentin Tarantino, right? And Kevin Smith sounds like Kevin Smith. But the difference between um, the dialogue is like I said, Kevin Smith is a bullshitter. And so the bullshitting comes through. But with with Tarantino, thereās like a vast amount of pop culture knowledge and nuance and like opinions and strong, intelligent and taste that comes through yeah, intelligence, Which is this laundry list of good things that that Quentin Tarantino has that Kevin Smith doesnāt. And yes, I I am constantly on Tarantinoās nuts. I donāt think heās ever made a bad movie. Look, the the on Lee. I mean, even the most recent ones, which are not even necessarily my favorite, are better than 90% of any movies that have ever been made. Yeah, the problem is, and the thing that Kevin Smith would say in rebuttal to this is youāre comparing me to the best filmmaker of all time and thank you very much. And itās like, Yeah, but shut the fuck up because itās clear you were trunk like you were comparing yourself to Quentin Tarantino when you made this movie, and if you werenāt I mean, boy, it sure does look like it right. And then the other thing is outside of screenwriting. Quentin Tarantino is a master director, like if he was not a screenwriter, he could tell the story of any any script on film because he is excellent at directing and portraying the story in whatever genre he chooses. Yes, so itās distinctly his, but also distinctly of the genre. And, ah, Kevin Smith obviously does not have that in his favor. Heās heās kind of a one trick pony. If itās like, you know, younger twenties and probably now, like middle age guy friends that are bullshitting and talking about relationships and, um, comic books, their inability to handle interpersonal conflict, then, yes, probably gonna be okay for Kevin Smith. But if heās gonna do like a nuanced genre film, heās just not going anyway. Moving on. So the origin of this film, the idea, actually came, um, about after a man in Brighton, England, put out an ad in this. Itās like a Craigslist type site called Gum Tree. Ah, he offered free rent to anyone willing to dress in a walrus suit and pretend to be said Animal for two hours a day. The advert turned out to be a hoax by a writer poet, Chris Parkinson. But after Kevin Smith discussed it on a smart cast with his co host, Scott Moy Mosier, he began a mole. The idea of turning in the turning it into a feature length film. Hey said something snapped in my brain, and itās only happened one other time in my life. That other time was 20 years ago, when I wondered why people didnāt make movies about me and my friends talking about movies and pushy and star wars. So I did. And it was Clerks. Smith said. So, uh, thatās also probably something youād say if he knew you made a piece of shit. Oh, is this Remind me the reason why I made this movie is itās exactly the same reason as I made that movie that you actually like. Um, so I mean, I thought it was interesting. That is not even an original idea. Itās not like they they, uh, like improv it on the show. Right? Itās literally someone elseās funny idea. Inspired by yes, taking us, like, altered to there purpose of Reverend. Um, yeah, itās, um and I can, you know, And in that format on, you know, as an interesting topic t bring up and talk about on on kind of an all purpose the topics podcast. This story is fun and works, you know, thing is exactly the kind of stuff you want to talk about. Bring up not the kind of thing you also want. I mean, you know what? Actually all even reverse that this could this movie. It could have been with this concept awesome. It could have you in your fucking awesome. Yeah, if you had given this movie to GM Road Del Toro? Yes. And he had the same budget. Three million? Probably even the same. Well, not the same script they have. Yeah. No makes no. Yeah, but if they gave this to, like, a really good body whore, direct or like Cronenberg or something, I wonder what Cronenberg could do with this on $3 million? I donāt know, but it be a lot better. This is the concept the bones of this thing could have been. The bones of this thing could have been Ah, could have been great. You could have had a really crazy cool story, but in effect, there was ah lot of blubber. Thereās a lot of fat on the bone a minute. Okay, um so before going very much further, it should be said Michael Parks is the best part of this film. Oh, hell, yeah. Heās great in anything heās in. Um, Michael Parks is kind of chameleon. You donāt really recognize him that much. That the part that I was like I was astounded at and I was a huge fan of them ever since kill Bill because and kill Bill. He played two characters on one in each film. The 1st 1 he was the sheriff that discovers the bride. Fantastic character outer. And then in the 2nd 1 heās the, like cigar during Hunter. And, like, drug Lord pimp. Yeah, um, and theyāre so different. And he was able to portray that. So each character so well that I had no idea that it was the same actor until the commentary. Yeah, he, um and that Honduran pimp, the the cigar sucking, kind of lazy eyed, lazy blinking it took place in. He was that same character in this movie. Basically, he was not far from it. Ah, yeah, yeah, we got a lot of the same affect. I got a lot of the same feel. Itās interesting that you I say that I didnāt I didnāt see that. This one is, like very much like it. Well, yes, heās a distinguished gentleman. And both of them, Yeah, it kind of sits there and smokes and ponders and tells a story and right? Yeah, thatās yeah, itās Ah, I see it now. Yeah, so that heās the best part. The worst part is the direction is truly terrible. And and and the script s so thereās arbitrary flashbacks that tell super obvious twists And just fuck with the pacing so bad. Look, that youāre just like what? Why, though, like you, you know you have to leave the action. You need to leave like the tension of the the one storyline of him being held captive. You have to leave it for something else. And what he chooses to leave it for is just like who cares like it should. Thereās sometimes, like, just kind of a template that you that you can use for the genreās you know, you said, you have someone told captive, Um, something bad is happening and then the B story line is the people that love them notice that theyāre gone and are trying to find out where they are. Yeah, like, thatās a very tried and true template, and sometimes you should just do that. Would you? Would you mind if so, So far weāve just been ripping this thing apart, but we havenāt really given the basics of what happened in the in the movie. Would you mind if I ran it down real quick. Yeah, I mean, itās pretty. Itās pretty basic. You go ahead. Yeah. Yeah. So this podcast, they, you know, theyāre Why would they send one of the two guys? Who is the guy that they sent? Whatās his Wallace Wallace. But what? Who? What is his actual name as a Justin Long? Justin Long. Thank you. You would recognize Justin Long. Heās the Mac guy. Yeah. And, um And so they sent him to the Great White North to interview a ah, viral video sensation who once he got there is revealed this kid killed himself. So now Justin Long has to has to find some other interesting story to talk about. So when heās in the bar up in realize that if said all this in the synopsis, right? Oh, you did? Iām sorry. I was thinking about how horrible this movie. So the part that I havenāt covered is is when he gets there. Michael Parks. His character tells this story, and itās kind of like, super interesting guy and Justin Longās character, the podcasters like I could totally use. This is an air view. He gives him some tea, just tea, and then, as heās telling him the story about being saved by this walrus and how important it was in his life. Justin Long faints clearly the whole time. Itās just very obvious that the tea is drug. Itās like here is some tea and just long is like I love taste. This tastes really weird. Whatās in this Drugs? So and then he wakes up and very quickly you realized that well, I mean at right, as Justin Longās character faints and itās even in the trailer. Howard House. Howard How the character that that Michael Parkes Place says, you know, go to sleep, Mr Tusk. And so thatās the name of the Walrus that saved. And so itās pretty obvious that heās got out there very quickly. Heās got a thing for walruses and expends no time and just saying heās gonna turn Justin long into a walrus, Right? Thatās the premise of this film, and I think pretty much everyone that knows about this film knows thatās what itās about. Yes, thereās a very thin veil of, Of like, Why am I here? How why why did you amputate my leg? And heās like, Ah, spider bitch! It was a brown recluse, also known as the whole Both Spider and that bitch and I had to amputate. Will had to have your own a leg amputated. Hey, you know, youāre under some heavy sedation and then he wakes up again and heās a Wallace. Itās like, Okay, like And thatās literally thatās literally the movie like we could stop with like we could. And then this friends find him and heās made a full metamorphosis into this is I mean, thereās not even a slow. I mean, thereās like maybe two seems, but really so then there is a tremendous Thereās like a 40 minute long dialogue with Johnny Depp, whoās whoās a detective whoās whoās hot on the trail. Canadian detective whoās hot on the trail of the serial killer who mutilates his but never sexually touches, which I donāt know why. Thatās interesting. Thatās anti interesting. He never, ever sexually gets. And so I mean, itās not even like it doesnāt play at all with the body whore. Itās not, you know, which is also kind of a missed opportunity, in my opinion. Yes, they make a big deal. Okay, this is this is like a sidestep, but they make this big deal about showing the walruses Penis bone, yeah, on the mantel and talking about like a Penis bone penises in right. And they make this big deal out of of Howard of Mr Howardās character getting just horribly abused when he was younger. And so youād think thereād be, like, some kind of weird, deviant sexual thing like, No, thatās just just so stupid walrus suit. And then they fight. Whatās the the So the main points of like about a body horror are he faints? He wakes up, his legs amputated. Heās like, What the fuck? And Mr Howardās like, Ah, itās just a spider And he faints, gets drug again and takes his other leg and kind of soās his arms together. And then I donāt even think we see his reaction to that. Like we donāt see Justin Long waking up after that particular operation the operation could have been, could have been 10 minutes long and horrific, horrifically gory. Look, Iām not a body horn, and thereās like, two operations, but one of them doesnāt even matter because you donāt see his reaction to it. All right? And then thereās another operation where itās like the full transformation and then the reveal immediate. I mean, itās within a span of it happens at the middle of it. Itās like there is exactly three minutes of this body horror movie devoted to body whore like, and itās an hour and 40 minutes long, and there is, I mean, that I donāt know if thatās the exact time, but thatās what it feels like. No, it is it. Like an hour 42. No, I mean the amount of time they spent on the body or yeah, yeah, it feels so insignificant to the amount of time. Yeah, and itās e. I mean, look, Iām not a body horror guy. I donāt like it. Iām just saying, if youāre trying for that, just go for it. You do that? So, uh, so at some point, um, after he gets and his leg is amputated, this first leg is amputated. Wallace calls his girlfriend but doesnāt give an address or any useful information you are, which is great, which is a pretty lengthy call. It was like a you know, two or three minute voicemail, but he doesnāt like, say, this is the town. Iām in. Look, Iām pretty sure I canāt remember in my whole Social Security number, but the last four is definitely 44 to 1, and thereās no use it. She just gives her everything in the kitchen sink except right, all of the useful stuff. Um, weāve already talked about how this movie blows. It slowed way too early. No care is given to extending out the dread or the body transformation. Itās it feels so insignificant. So letās talk about the actual reveal and how terrible it is. It looks so much worse than I expected. I like. Iām still they spent. They spent so much camera time looking directly at this horrible walrus costume. I canāt believe it. Itās like $3 million. You imagine your head if you havenāt seen this movie and you? I have watched the trailer, doesnāt show anything. And if you were to imagine in your head, what would it look like if someone surgically turned someone into a walrus? Go ahead. I have that picture in your mind. Imagine a good movie was made out of that. Okay, Now imagine someone at the San Diego comic con did like pretty good cosplay of it. Okay, so put that picture in your mind. Okay? Now picture someone in like a Portland, Oregon comic con Ah! Ah, Thatās the sauce play of it. A significantly smaller, less well attended comic con. Okay, now, now think of someone in like like Henderson, Texas, comic Con Forks, Washington comic con attended by six people. Okay, okay, that is the cosplay. The person that goes as cosplay for that That movie. Thatās what the actual design looked like in this film. This is not an exaggeration. Itās Itās like a big latex. And the real damning part of it is how how he moves in the costume. They donāt go to any length at all to try and hide the fact that this is just basically a big plastic bag around around him. Heās like when he retracts his head into the costume it like and itās and itās just very clearly a big latex bag. Weird. Why would you show this literally looks like just latex foam? So itās not even like heās in a bag full of blubber? No, it just feels like Yes. Oh, itās so bad. I canāt underline how bad it is. So in a circumstance circumstance like this, if you have a terrible, cheap looking monster design thatās not scary and looks ridiculous, you have to go the jobās route. You do not show it. You show it in flashes, right? You show like the aftereffects of its presence. Yeah, you show all these things fleeting but disturbing imagery. He tries to do that leading up to it. But even that isnāt super effective because itās the design is so bad that it looks fake. Yeah, just itās this is the other one. Okay, is the better analogy. Get rid of all the comic con cosplay stuff. All right, The costume looks like itās from a Conan OāBrien sketch air We go. Thatās thatās what guys made a walrus costume. Yes, unlike Late Night, Conan OāBrienās like early Conan OāBrien with, you know, back when, uh, what was that pimp bought? 3000? Yeah, Or like the masturbating bear. So this is like minty, the candy cane that fell on the ground level. That scotch tape is involved. Yeah, anyways, and they just he just does not know how to shoot it or make it interesting at all. Itās looks like there is isnāt that scary? Now letās just keep looking at it in a wide shot. I keep us. Thatās the most interesting thing we can do. I keep wanting to give them the benefit of the doubt and say Itās itās intentionally ironic, but itās just intentionally shitty or even just the lighting If they let it different or this made of more like like slimy M or something, It was just so bad, and it happens at the midpoint of the film. Itās over at that point that thereās nothing left in your film and, like the Onley thing left and Iāll skip forward to the very ending. The Onley thing left is thereās a fight to the death of Justin Longās character and Michael Parkes character, and Michael Park is dressed in a walrus suit, and it it is like as much as it would. It can redeem itself. It it kind of is interesting at that point, and then it dwells on that for like, half a minute, and then itās over. OK, so where did the $3 million go? Bryce. So the maternity Where did it go? Did it go to the soundtrack to get that Tusks? Yes, exactly. Or but why the fuck did they go for the the like? Thatās the layup like Thatās the layup song go for I am the Walrus. If you got $3 million like, why are you? Why are you going with whoās saying that? Fleetwood Mac What? Where you going with Fleetwood Mac when you could have the Beatles? All right, I think it was a good choice. Thatās thatās a great choice. Itās well for this movie because itās a B side, but yeah, Kevin Smith even said himself that, like most of the budget, was spent on licensing that I mean, probably not a lot of the budget was spent unlicensed. Sing that song. Thatās a pretty big song. Weāll see if weāll see what get pulled off a YouTube for two and 1\/2 seconds of that. But ah yeah, itās just so bad. All right, So letās move on to some other things that the other bad things terrible jokes based off of tired Canadian stereotypes. Just not even interesting joke. Not even not. Thereās no hey, did you know that Canadians say A and A boot and a boot did you know that itās time that we know that theyāre polite. This movie came out in 2014 in there, making jokes about that isnāt that funny? Letās base an entire Letās just really dwell on Canadian stereotypes and arenāt French Canadian hilarious. Letās letās put Johnny Depp in this. Do you care that Johnny Depp is in this Johnny Depp? Okay, No, First of all, no. You know what? You know what putting Johnny Depp in this movie does. It makes you go, Oh, shit. About 20 minutes into this to seeing that character you go. Oh, thatās Thatās Johnny Depp. Yeah, he really was in a bunch of weird makeup and maybe a prosthetic, and I was like, Why are they making him up so much? Second, I didnāt recognize him, but then I looked. Iām like, Oh, itās cause itās Johnny Depp. By the time Johnny Depp shows up, the movie should be fucking over. But instead thereās 40 minutes left of Johnny Depp just kind of expounding on this serial killer who turns his victims into something we donāt know. What spoilers. Itās a walrus, Uh, and and then and then itās just and then itās just Johnny Depp. Just kind of just going to in the scenery. You sure in the senior is just just Johnny the ideas like, wouldnāt it be funny if Johnny Depp was did a ridiculous French Canadian accent? So So what? It turns out no, itās not funny. Yeah, and what it accomplishes is like when the movieās already over and youāre and youāre still supposedly telling a story, the audience halfway through goes, Oh, shit, thatās Johnny Depp and then gets on their phones to get on imdb to make sure that thatās actually Johnny Depp. So now you have half the audience just gone right? Oh, man, this movie, another be plot is Wallace is coupled it a cuckolded, edited by his friends and podcast partner, played by Haley Joel Osman. Do you care about that story line? I donāt except to say that Haley. I said this during while we were watching, but Haley Joel Osmond is just unfortunate looking because he looks like a child actor who grew up. Yeah, heās Heās probably the most child actor that grew up pissed. Yeah, looking. I mean, Macaulay Culkinās pretty close, I think the thing with Haley Joel Iseman. Heās still got I donāt want to, like, rag on somehow because mostly, like everyone looks like a weird version of the child themselves. Except you donāt actually get to know the weird version of Child. Exactly. Donāt see like you donāt miss the transition you see in the whole time. But with Haley, Joel Osmond has a particular thing where his face is very small. Yes, comparison to his head When heās Yeah, itās Itās strange because yeah, I donāt want a rag. He did a fine job. Heās Everything heās been in has been great. He gave us six cents. Jesus Christ, like he was great. And, ah, most recently the boys on Amazon. You were telling me about that. You should watch that. But But all suffice does. Suffice it to say you donāt care about his story line or his character that gets way too much time, right? Um, talk about this. Briefly. Howard Howe was abused as a child by a community of pedophiles. Um, it feels like itās what Smith is using as a reason for why heās insane. Hereās Hereās the clip from From the Movie on. So for the next five years. I was beaten. I was tortured. I was raped. I had things in my mouth and no human being should have a taste. I never thought of you as a person. He just thought to use me. And usually they didnāt. Priests, politicians, interests, even the nurses. No night watchman alone. Which is all to satisfy the most peace, physical and financial desires through the rectum and lips of a child. Like I get it. You grew up Catholic, and you had a hard time because because And I mean, I like my heart goes out to anyone who was who was abused as a child. Like 100% right donāt like. And? And the whole point of this movie, like the through line on this movie, is like, Why would you want to be a person? It would better. It would be better to be just something as a name as a walrus, Right. But ah, boy, man, you could do a lot. You could do a lot more footwork. Yeah, it feels it feels a lot. It feels pretty cheap. Using that is like a plot point, but not actually like attaching it to anything other than just People are bad. Yeah, And again, like my heart goes out to eat to Kevin Smith. Like, Iām sorry for what happened here legitimately, but this was this was a bad way to do it. Yeah. Um, the scene with Johnny Depp and Michael Parkes is probably one of the most interesting parts of the movie. But Iām not going to say itās good. Itās Itās meta interesting because theyāre two actors just absolutely chewing the scenery. Itās Johnny Depp doing a ridiculous French Canadian accent and Michael Parkes doing like a almost touched. Yeah, he was a bit Southern American type accent. Yeah. Um, hereās Hereās a clip of that. Just to give you a taste. I have it. Here it is. Good afternoon. Tea, sir? I am Philip went So do kid Dick. Oh, Did you come here by a biter? You come here about the spider? Yeah, Yeah, Yes. Ah! All right. So this movie is basically a much worse version of the human centipede. But you brought this up while we were watching it. I just wanted to briefly touch on what human centipede did better. Ok, One of my favorite films. Yeah, human centipede is Bryceās baby. Yeah, so Human Centipede drew out the explanation of what the doc was going to do. The people so part of, like theās body horror movies, especially with a insane scientist, the draft is the insane scientist, explaining exactly what heās going to do to you and why thatās like weāre half the horror comes from where you realize this guy is fucking insane. Yeah, and you have to sit and watch and see his delight at his idea. Yeah, itās Itās the Clockwork Orange thing where theyāre prying your eyes open and making you watch something you donāt want to watch. And it completely doesnāt do that in this film, um, human centipede. Thereās a much slower passage of time and showing of the recovery process of the surgery, which is also like, just horrifying but also very interesting. And it just shows, like a lot of like, what would this actually be like? I just donāt want to watch him and send a beat so badly, and then the the tone. This is where, like just why itās such a glorious fill. The tone I was trying to write down what the tone of human centipede is, and itās so difficult to say exactly what it is. I imagine itās Itās like hell on earth. Itās played so straight and committed. Itās so committed and but somehow still over the top. But itās not like hacky. Uh, itās itās over the top and how much itās playing it straight, right? Itās like itās like saw if saw took itself even more seriously. So it just underlines the ridiculousness of the premise. And it feels like it grounds this horrible idea in this ridiculous premise in reality, which makes it horrifying, Um, and a really focused on the horror of the protagonist situation and Tusk like it just says like this happened. But it doesnāt really dwell on what the protagonist thinks about or theyāre actually experience. It just it just shows them any screaming. Thatās it. Itās silly that I mean, thatās all the years shown about, like, his experiences that itās done in the East any any. He doesnāt like it. Yeah, um, the ending with the walrus duel to the death, it really could have been great. It was an interesting idea. Having Howard in like, another walrus suit and try to battle to the death with their tusks, but again felt firmly right on his face. From the directing standpoint, the choreography is terrible, like itās literally just like if youāre lying next to each other and just kind of like rolling into each other. Yeah, thatās thatās it like and if thatās if youāre limited by the costumes, okay, thatās fine. But try to shoot it in a way that it looks like thereās something happening other than that. And it just didnāt. I just looked like I felt long, like a medium shot or a wide shot of them kind of nudging each other. And then it ends with Justin Long, like tackling the guy and stabbing him with his tasks is and itās just thatās thatās and then another ending is tacked on with the girlfriend feeding a fish to him. And this is actually we missed it if we had listened or if we had watched all the all the credits. So weāve been treated to this clip from the smog cast when theyāre discussing the third, okay, we skip we skipped all the way to the very end of the of the credits because it looked like there was a like, there was a scene at the end. And theyāre waas. Yeah. Welcome this podcast. Iām Kevin Smith. Scott Mosier. Oh, shit. All right, So hereās the third act. He then goes and puts on his suit, you know, made of human skins. And so you realize heās done this before? Like, Iām not the first lodger and shit like that. So heās in it. Youāre in yours, and you guys have to have one. Morris fights on the beach. Always love each other on you. Start like we start saying is man indeed a walrus it hard. You ultimately get him and fuck, I think what has happened at the end is that once he makes that switch, yeah, he canāt go back like the clinic for the criminally insane or somewhere. And you see, you know, like his buddy, heās got something wrapped in a newspaper. You know whatās going on? Yes, eyes awesome. And it is like itās like another walrus enclave. A better version of where he waas because he realized they canāt reverse the process. Yeah, heās funny. Heās got even in his head. Heās gone full walrus and he throws in the fish and then fucking the walrus man scurries over to it all gross and starts biting at it. The ground they play like some sad piano music roll credits as we pull back in this overhead watching fucking this facial, thereās a song thatās just like big sender in your way. Need a hashtag for this conversation. Needs to grow to hash tags. I am Field that inside. So this actually parlays nicely into something I was. I was mentioning about this movie. Itās written as a comic book. This this movie would work as a comic book very well. And by the way, if youāre not familiar, Kevin Smith does author comic books, and heās good at it. Ah, really good at it, because because of that dialogue, you just heard that all plays very well on the page because it needs to be obvious. It needs to be exposition, all dialogue. It needs to be all of these things. So if youāre looking for good Kevin Smith comic books, go check out, I think, uh, he has a green arrow. One called my quiver or something like that. Check out that grate shit, not tusk. Yeah, um, to me the best possible ending would have been if they had just put him back together if they just like, yeah, put that, too, and just had him horribly like mangled and stuff. But that would be like the only thing they deem it like have a modicum of redemption for this film is if they just did something as ridiculous is like Oh, yeah, and then they just put him back together. And now heās like, just a human again. But heās got legs again, but instead they the most ridiculous. Like I get it like I like. I get the ironic, sad irony of putting him in a in a basically 1\/3 rate zoo in the middle of Manitoba somewhere. But itās not. See thatās the thing like it goes from again that works in a comic book. Really well, itās is like, Oh, heās a walrus. Heās full walrus now, but like you never felt like he was still a human after the reveal anyways. And itās yeah, and itās not like itās not like itās wasted on me that this was just a goofy goof that was meant to be fun and funding for you to make. But, you know, I mean, presumably people paid to see this. Itās just a giant. Well, not a giant piece of shit. Not a lot, because it is the final bullet points. So $3 million was the budget, and the cumulative worldwide gross was $1.8 million. Iām sure theyāre making that up on the back end because itās been on Netflix for years. I donāt think they make millions of dollars from Netflix, though. I donāt know how. I donāt know. I mean, this is the kind of movie that the buzz around it before it was so large about like, how ridiculous would this movie be a movie about someone turning into a walrus? But you would assume that it would be able to make $3 million But it didnt mostly because anyone that saw it probably told other people, Donāt go see It is bad if I recall human center peed. That was actually so that was released in still in the era of I think that was, like 2007 or eight or nine. Yeah, maybe maybe even six, because I remember walking through the, you know, the Hollywood video and seeing, you know, a wall of human centipede, DVDs and being like, No, thank you. But but But then, you know, I mean, it really kept go like the the hype train for human centipede kept going because it was available was one of the first titles available when Netflix went streaming, I believe. And ah, and so I donāt know, I I donāt know what what? My point is on that other than to say, Ah, I think thereās a definite lane for this kind of movie and it be interesting if it was done right if there were more like human centipede. Not that Iām interested in watching them, because you but But this is very easy to stomach. In my opinion, this tusk is just Ah, yes. So we had two people request this, and I think theyāre both patrons. I think a couple other people that were just reached out to some social media said, Check it out. So, um, we need more people asking for human centipede so I could make David watch it because he does not want to watch a video if you want us to review human centipede send us Ah, Senate Seema Info horror movie talk dot com or reach out on Facebook. Okay, so letās move on to final recommendations. Who do you think should watch this Brown? Just just donāt pull a father like this is one that you should just search for clips on YouTube. Just get get the idea. Probably believe the only scene. I mean, itās on Netflix, so you can skip through it. The only scenes that are interesting are the scene where Wallace and Howard are talking. When the introduction and an hour talking about his past and then him fainting skip forward to the reveal. Yeah, and that will give you a taste of, like, how much quality this movie is. Everything. Everything else is totally dispensed. Maybe maybe the very end, maybe, like the walrus fight and then the end scene with them feeding the fish Like it? Yeah, really? Itās only two things that it is on Netflix. So if you are watching looking for something horrific Ah, thio be on in the background. It is getting towards October. So I guess you could Yeah, this is but also the witches on Netflix. So watch for real I would rather watch the witch, like, five more times than watch this. Yes, but first time. Yes, but you donāt want you like you want to soak in every second of the witch. This you could just put on in the background. Thatās right. Yeah. Maybe you could watch it while youāre working. Um, okay, So final recommendations is just, like, just donāt this problem, really? Donāt. Who would like it, though? Like whose? It would be a big fan of this. Oh, Kevin Smith. Fanboys mostly, uh, or, you know, people. I mean, this is one of those ones thatās a really low bar of entry into body horror. So if you if you like full moon production stuff, if you like, Just like absolute shitty horror movies to make fun of, This is Ah ah. Maybe close to that. Yeah, but but the So hereās hereās an interesting thought. So in order to get this made or gauge responsiveness of like who would like to see this story? Kevin Smith started a hashtag campaign of walrus. Yes. And hashtag walrus. Yes. And hashtag walrus. No. And and so you know, we could Dio is we could start that that campaign right back up and just ah, tweeted Kevin Smith hashtag walrus. No, just just light him up and and, you know, tag us horror movie talk in there and letās see if letās see if we can get Kevin Smith angrily rant and give us exactly what we want. Some some time on from his valuable is super valuable podcast This month, the podcast mum cast So, uh, so hashtag walrus. No. Yeah. Um, okay, letās move on Thio Games and bits. New Way never did the mid roll. I donāt think so. We didnāt do the middle. So Hey, guys, if you would like to support the show if you if you find this funny or interesting or even annoying, you can go ahead and head on over to our website at horror movie talk dot com, check on out at the top of the page there. If you want to become a patron, that helps us out a whole lot. 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If you like streaming horror, itās the best way to go for sure. Um, finally, weāve put a call out to ah to call for writers for our block if youāre interested in writing about horror movies, um, and horror movie topics not necessarily reviews, because thatās what we do in the episodes. But horror movie topics um, weāre accepting submissions reach out to us on Facebook or Twitter, and weāll be happy to see what you got in. We could give you suggestions if you canāt come up with an idea. Yeah, and weāve had some people reach out to us, and Iām super excited because it sounds like they are, you know, horror connoisseurs. And and so they have some interesting content coming your way soon. All right, letās move on Years, tagline. Taglines is a game where we come up with alternate taglines for the movie weāre reviewing. So Iāll go first. You go first, actually. Yeah. Okay. Tusk. It takes a bite out of your time. Ah, Tusk. Youāve heard the saying that this cat has claws? Well, this walrus has heart tusk touching tale of a man who loves a walrus and a man who is a walrus. Dusk, Thea Oscar goes to Justin Long. He was He was shafted that year, man. I mean, he really should have got it. Yeah. I mean, how are you supposed to act with your tongue? Cut out Tusk Human scent ap Sorry, Tusk Human Centipede without all the fixings. Tusk. At least we know that Kevin Smith has less money to make movies like this Now Tusk picture a 10 minute long story stretched out in the one hour and 40 minutes and Oh, yeah, Johnny Depp Thatās all I got. I got some more. OK, go for Tusk. It could have used Jay and silent Bob Tusk. I think a tusk the same way I think of people with blue hair. Itās just like, Oh, it exists. Yeah, look atyou. Letās not interact with it. Letās I know everything I need to know about you now. Oh, I was thinking like elderly people. Blue hairs like blue hair. No, Iām talking about, like, dyed blue hair. Okay? Yeah, Itās just like, Oh, yeah. And you all have the same picture. Weāre all thinking of the same person. Um, I think I have one more. Ah Ah, yeah, I donāt actually, if they this would have been a very interesting film if it was a Jay and Silent Bob sequel, right? If it was silent Bob, that was turned into the walrus. Whoa, Dude, look at this crazy crap is going on over here. And thatās this. Worst J was just like observing. Yeah, Yeah, I really could have called him Fat boy. Okay, last bit. Gonna talk some horror movie news s so we donāt have to cover all of this. Iāve put a bunch of quotes in here If thereās anything interesting that we actually want to go deeper into. Netflix is S O Netflix just released a trailer for their Netflix and Chills event kind of event things. So itās a special Halloween season release schedule of four original horror movies who so first on September 27th theyāre gonna put out in the shadow of the moon. Um, but but but but s. So itās like a serial killer movie. Thatāll be Iām excited for a serial killer movie. Yeah, theyāve got a lot of serial killer content on Netflix should. And if you, if you start watching like mine, Henderson will forget about it. Youāre like the algorithm will be like, Oh, you like serial killers. Hereās Hereās all the fucking serial killers. Itās just like every TV anyway. Um, on October 4th, they release in The Tall Grass, which is based on a novella by Stephen King and Joe Hill. So if any of these jump out at you that you want more information, anything, people being sure we could read the synopsis, but I donāt really care that much. No running Over Fractured will be released on October 11th. I donāt know what fractions about on. Then Eli, released on October 18th is about something, and then rattlesnake. Weāll be released on October 25th. Itās also about something also about presumably a rattlesnake. I think I think fractured has someone recognizable in it. Okay, you go, youāll figure it out. Um, so So this is notable because Netflix does know how to do horror movies. Like if If you remember about this time last year, maybe November last year we reviewed the ritual, which is, Ah, horror movie done by Netflix. Great. Just Ah, really? Yeah, thereās thereās thereās been some good content put out on Netflix. The ritual The Apostle is probably worth watching, Even Bird Box and the profound bird bird box was fabulous. Weāve reviewed all of those, um, so yeah, theyāre kind of going a little deeper into horror. They actually released a special you Earl that will land you on all of Netflixās horror offerings. If you go to dub dub dub dot netflix dot com slash netflix and chills. Itāll just put you on the landing page for the horror genre. Thatās just a quick if you want to simulate shudder. Yeah, through Netflix. You could do that. But why would you want to do that? You know 30. 40 trial by using HMT. Um so well, in the in the poster, this episode will put ah link to the YouTube trailer for that Netflix and Chills event. Next item synapse Films Bringing is Bringing Dario are Gento, Suspiria to four K ultra HD in November on November 19th 2019. Thatāll be cool and be a full restoration fork. A restoration of the uncut, uncensored Italian 35 millimeter negative with color correction supervised by cinematographer Luciano Tivoli, Jonno and ah, but but but But itās a great I donāt think Iāve actually watched the original yet, but we reviewed the remake, which is apparently nothing like the original. Iāve seen bits and pieces of the original, and it is effective. Thereās a reason itās good. Yeah, special features. Weāll include two audio commentaries by authors and our gentle scholars, Derek Botello and David Dill, Vala Troy Howarth. Whatever. Um, bunch of other special features. 123456 Like six notable special features. You can check it out. Weāll put ah the list on the post for this episode. John Carpenterās Halloween is returning to select theaters beginning September 27th. Yeah, this will be This will be huge. Yeah, itās ah restored and remastered digital prints, and it was created under the supervision of world renowned cinematographer Dean Cundy. Um, so that will be interesting. Actually, I check the schedule and itās gonna be a Kiggens theater. Oh, shit. Which is interesting, because last year we went to kick ins theater to watch the original Halloween, but was put up put on by just a local podcast here. Yeah, a small cast, if you will. A, uh, itās the podcast called the horror killer. Iāll, um, you check them out. Um, if youāre interested in that, get tickets at www dot cinna life entertainment dot com slash events Last Halloween. Another news item. Brendan Fraser is all in for a new mummy movie. Should the opportunity present itself. Shocking Hollywood collectively replies. Yeah, we know guys, just if anything was going on over there like anything at all, Iām really Iām just really excited about whatever it is youāre excited about. Yeah, and it seems like the most likely thing of that is the moment. So itās like if Christopher Lloyd said, Hey, guys, Iām all for doing another back to the future sequel if you if you need me like yeah, we know, like obviously way, we know that youāre not doing anything. You would make a great that right. Weāre not doing that right now or itās like the Bill, the Bill and Tedās excellent adventure sequel thatās coming up the not Chiana Reeves guy. Itās probably like, Oh, thank God that it is. I thought that was an interesting but I I donāt understand what brought in and Frasier did to fall out of. I think he was. Well, uh, he got he got fatter and uglier, lost his hair, But George of the Jungle, though Yeah, well, I was never a huge Brendan Fraser friend. To be honest, I didnāt mind him. He hit me. He hit all the expected marks. For what about Monkeybone? Bryce monkey pants. Just always like I could always expect. Kind of kind of not that funny, but goofy but passable. I gotta fuck thatās thatās Thatās where heās at. I got a fun recollection of high school where I was like trying to be a human being for a moment. You know, where I was, like, I donāt know how to be like you people. So let me. So I got one of those three ring binders that had, like, a clear sleeve for the, you know, to put whatever it was. And I was like, Oh, kids are like displaying artistic things on their binders, saws. They just printed out a giant picture of Brendan Fraser. Itās alarming how close you are. So I had a subscription to PlayStation magazine, and in it was a an ad for a wacky looking movie that I had never seen or really heard of. But it was called Monkeybone, and it had, like, a weird little suggestive themes and and kind of fun little. So I took an Exacto knife and cut out all the little little portions of this, including Brendan Fraser and and the wording Monkeybone at the top and displayed them at is like a shadow box at the front of my three ring binder. And then kids just called this was like sophomore year. And then I was Monkeybone. Wow. How much did you regret that after watching the film? I was I was bought and I was like, This is how I do it right? And theyāre like, Yeah, look at you. Stupid. No book. I was like, Okay, Iām doing it. I think Iām fitting. So you go Really was like, I got my niche. Now Iām monkey find monkey book like that. I didnāt even like I knew it wasnāt quite, like matching up with how later art being artistic work, right? But it was It was the best. I had, like a right. Nice. And now you have a fair to middling podcast. Showed all of them fuckers. Whoās Monkeybone now? Idiot. Um, speaking of shudder, we werenāt speaking to shutter, but weāve mentioned them. So should have released a trailer for an original film called Blood Machines. The trailer looks is actually really interesting. Itās kind of like itās a cosmic horror movie that looks a lot along the style of, um, Mandy. Lots of color, but kind of cosmic or elements will link the trailer on the post to crowdfunded English language French production that follows to space hunters who witness a mystical phenomenon when they see the ghost of young one crawl out of a machine they destroyed. That sounds like right up my alley in the Like that I love the cosmic. Or thatās my favorite. No, no release date as of yet, but go check out the trailer is pretty interesting. Weāll have it on the post for this. This episode at horror movie talk dot com Andy Machete details to deleted scenes that would be part of a potential supercut of both it movies. So I think we mentioned this on the last episode that that Andy Machete has said that heās interested in doing a supercut where he combines both it films into one gigantic, like six and 1\/2 hour long movie. He talked about two scenes. Thereās a scene in the 16 hundreds. These decided not to put in to the film because it was a little confusing would touch more on the origin story of Pennywise. He also talked about a deleted scene where the celestial turtle ner known as mature in an ancient figure who appears in Kingās It novel as well as the dark tower. So Okay, good cuts. You know, itās interesting. Actually, the Pennywise origin stuff might might have been interesting, but ah, yeah, that Z is interesting when you have, like, a two hour and 45 minutes. What? What is cut like At what? At some point, your leg Was there anything that hit the cutting room floor other than his feet on DA And, you know, itās interesting to it. Chapter two is getting a lot of flack right now for not being LGBT friendly. The Pennywise air Pennywise was very homophone is not, As it turns out, heās a bad guy. Yeah, heās not. Heās not accepted. Heās fired. I can get on board with the eating children part, but I draw the line at homophobia. Why would you want him to be inclusive of any part of you? Why would you want him to be on your side anyways? Um, cut more things. Amanda Seyfried is in talks to star Netflixās horror thriller Things Heard and Seen, uh, which is a movie that could be directed by Sherry Springer. Berman and Robert Pulcini, who were directed her, were nominated for an Oscar for American Splendor. Did you ever see that movie never did. Paul Giamatti as the famous comic book writer. I canāt remember his name. Do you have a good? Do you have a good impression of him of Paul Giamatti? Yeah. No. Okay, I just canāt stop thinking of I canāt remember who it is that does all the Paul Giamatti impressions. I think itās on the Adam Corolla show, but where itās just, heās just on injury. Think I from private parts basically a pig pig vomit. Big moment. Anyoneās thatās That was a really good movie, so this might be like a pretty good movie. The story, a story of things Heard and Seen, centers on a young couple who moved to farm near a small town in upstate New York. Their new home is cursed by the murder of its former owners, and as haunted secrets revealed themselves, the husband and wifeās own marriage reveals itself to have it darkness of its own. Stop it, Um, okay, a couple. Just two more things and weāre gonna go. Toni Colette, our favorite from hereditary, joins the cast of Guillermo del Toro. Is it guilt? Gilera? Guillermo, this is saying it right. This is the most difficult region ever done. Toni Collette are fair from her secretary, Gilma de Toroās. Itās only hard because because Bryce Hansen is reading it. Heās a mealy mouth piece, a shit Guillermo del Toroās Nightmare Alley, the next movie being directed by Guillermo del Toro. And itās an adaptation of the novel by William Lindsay Gresham, which was published in 1946. The novel spawned its first feature film just one year later, starring Tyrone Powers and blah, blah, blah, blah blah. Who cares? Uhm, Tyrone is like the strongest name you could give a child. Well, other than Murdoch, Murdoch is fucking strong to my. My youngest middle name is Murdock on Lee because I couldnāt convince Errand to give it as his first name. But if there was any kid that was named Murdoch, would it not be calling totally would be column is such a fucking Murdock? Yeah, weāre over at your home, Murdoch. We were over at Davidās daughterās birthday, her third birthday last week last week, and your sister in law Look at Colin. It was like, How old is he? Was like, Oh, yeah, This month, heās gonna turn to Sheās like God, he heās not too yet because he was standing next to Charlotteās bigger than my three year old. Yeah, heās just and my three year old is not small like she dwarfs a lot of these way fi kids like there like sheās, sheās I mean, sheās not thick or anything like that. But sheās sheās not a small girl. Yeah, if you were to, like, take a normal sized three year old and like having put their arms down to their side. If you were to, like, draw a rectangle around their shoulders and the arms of their side, widen it by about like an inch, that would be just Collins chest. Absolute unit. Um, heās wide so that that Nightmare Alley notable also in the cast is Bradley Cooper, Cate Blanchett and Rooney Mara, and sounds like a really good cast. Thatās gonna be huge. That could be good, of course. Like I donāt know, Bird box and And the perfection had a really good cast, too. But theyāre like, Dude, what do you talk about Bird Box? And is he was huge. Do you remember that? Like this head of steam on that? Yeah. No, I mean, I guess I like both of those films. I like Bird box. A lot is a phenomenon. Uh, okay, So, sadly, Final final. No, The nail in the coffin finally dropping a movie pass shuts down with its parent company citing failure to raise funds on Friday movie past notified remaining subscribers All you bless your heart for still subscribing a movie past. Iām sure theyāre very, very shocked at this, but theyāre going to shut down. Service is effective September 14th. So it already happened. As of this podcast release, um, its efforts to recapitalize movie pass have not been successful to date. Um, and even even with movie passes of evident demise, I read the press release. Itās actually, like, kind of bittersweet. I kind of felt bad for him because they mentioned that they really did change the movie industry. The yeah, yeah. They in effect accomplished their purpose one year ago. This time one year ago, we were we were subscribed to it. Yeah, it was great for like, a week. And then, like they the shit hit the fan in terms of capitalization and they just could not provide. Service is I think It was just kind of off and on for like, actually providing the service that they promised. But even with movie passes evident demise, the serviceās spurred theater chains, including AMC Regal and Cinemark Tow, launch their own rival subscription plans. And last month, Emcee said it. Stubbs A List program, which lets subscribers see three movies weekly for 20 bucks a month, had hit 900,000 subscribers. See, hereās my hereās Hereās My Angle. Iām going to try and get a M C on board. Tiu sponsor us to sponsor them. T sponsor that their service? Because Because, let me tell you, Bryce AMC already sponsors the show. There, they own shutter. Thatās true. So letās letās got to have some sort of hashtag walrus. Yes, or horror movie talk? Yes, for AMC HMT sponsorship. Yes, yeah, we It would be so sweet Thio to get some sort of deal going. Letās do Letās start the hash tag. AMC hashtag AMC sponsorship for HMT now. Yes, donāt do that. Weāll think about it and weāll get back to you with something that might actually work. Or if you work for AMC Corporate, you just drop him a line and tell us to contact us. That whatever. Um, whatever. Thatās our show for today. Oh, it is not. I would like to say thank you to a few people. Jeannie Borland, who gave us a stellar review on Facebook, Whoās like these guys. Brightened my bright my drive Every time Iām going to work, Iām like, Hey, Janey, Thank you. Yeah, itās really nice. We really appreciate you and listening to us and the nice words that you said about us And also her birthday was Friday the 13. Wow. Dude, I wonder if sheās still with us. Do you wish we had planned? Still with us? Yeah. I mean, your birthday on Friday the 13th. Theyāre gonna make it out of that. I really wish we had planned for Friday the 13th and released like a nightmare on Elm Street episode. You mean a Friday? The 13th episode? No, I would do. Why would we do that? Yeah, I donāt know. Um, thatās a good point. Also, Iād like to say thank you to ah, Steven, Michael, for for basically just just interacting with us basically constantly on Facebook. I love it. And, uh, e really latched onto the Scorpion King. Uh, add that we ran last week on the chapter two. So thank you, guys if and if Iām missing your name. You know what? I would like to give a shout out to somebody I think about frequently whenever I burp on the show. Dana. Dana, Thank that if youāre still listening. Thank you. I love you. And I think of you every time I burp literally. Um, yeah, thanks. Especially to all our patrons on patri on. We hope you enjoy our exclusive content. 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The standout is obviously Magnus there in Sweden. Magnus the man. We got a lot of people listening in the UK Got a lot of people listening in. Ah, Australia. You in South America, weāve gotten a couple people reach out. Yeah. Good day, mate. Put another shrimp on the Barbie. The country of South America, the whole country of so Okay. All right, guys, have a great week. We love you, bye!


