Do You Even Lit? Crashing out of Gravity's Rainbow: A postmortem of our first DNF
Jan 7, 2026
The hosts dive into their experiences with a challenging Pynchon novel they couldn't finish. They debate if they picked the wrong book, question their comprehension, and ponder literary masochism. Exploring postmodernism, they discuss the purpose behind difficulty in writing. Comparing Pynchon and Wallace, they analyze themes of sincerity versus irony in literature. Their reflections on humor in dense prose and the merits of maximalism lead to a broader conversation about reading challenges and expectations in great literature.
01:04:36
Postmodernism: Good Literary Tool, Flawed Philosophy
- Postmodern literature is a useful sandbox for showing how perception colors reality without fully endorsing radical relativism.
- The hosts find it valuable but warn philosophical postmodernism can go too far and self-negate.
Pynchon’s Humor Feels Like Relief
- The hosts find Pynchon's humor often unfunny or cartoonish, serving mainly as brief relief amid dense prose.
- Comedic moments feel like reprieves rather than standalone, genuinely funny scenes.
Films Trump Page For Pynchon Vibe
- Host 0 notes he enjoyed film adaptations (e.g., Paul Thomas Anderson's) more than the books, finding characters more vivid on screen.
- He suspects cinema can strip 80% of Pynchon's complexity yet still make the material emotionally resonant.
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Intro
00:00 • 32sec
Why we quit Gravity's Rainbow
00:32 • 2min
Should we have chosen a different Pynchon?
02:19 • 3min
Was effort the missing ingredient?
05:05 • 2min
Are we too dumb for Pynchon?
06:39 • 3min
Masochism, patience, and literary thresholds
09:11 • 3min
The 'forced feeding' metaphor
11:42 • 5min
Is difficulty purposeful or gratuitous?
16:51 • 2min
What themes did we grasp?
18:23 • 1min
Postmodernism's deliberate disorientation
19:36 • 1min
Wallace, postmodernism, and sincerity
20:47 • 7min
Postmodernism as useful literary sandbox
28:13 • 47sec
Cultural dominance of irony
29:00 • 2min
Pynchon's humor — does it land?
30:42 • 4min
Cartoonish tone and film adaptations
34:26 • 4min
Needles in a haystack: maximalism strategy
38:10 • 2min
Should a great book require easy surface access?
39:41 • 29sec
What we do appreciate in Pynchon
40:10 • 3min
Would we ever reread it?
42:47 • 2min
Spoilers, guides, and post-read theory work
44:53 • 60sec
Confidence most readers struggle too
45:53 • 2min
Respect for Pynchon's uncompromising vision
47:41 • 49sec
Maximalism and naming realism
48:30 • 51sec
Why Wallace feels different from Pynchon
49:21 • 6min
Irony poisoning and changing art habits
55:45 • 1min
Ad break
56:57 • 1min
Listener mail: Woolf and modernism
58:22 • 4min
Outro
01:02:01 • 2min
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Yeah fuck this book. After much blood, sweat, tears, and other unspeakable bodily excretions, we've had enough.
This is our first ever DNF after 50+ titles, so we thought we should do a postmortem of what went wrong.
Did we not try hard enough? Is Pynchon basically an asshole? Do we have a problem with postmodernism as a tradition? Or the maximalist writing style? How is that we (mostly) love David Foster Wallace, who copied so much of his schtick from Pynchon, but not the master himself?
And several other theories for why this book ultimately defeated us:
(00:00:00) Theory 1: we chose the wrong Pynchon to start out with
(00:06:45) Theory 2: we are straight-up too dumb for this book
(00:11:35) Theory 3: GR is intended for literary masochists
(00:19:34) Theory 4: Postmodernist disorientation spiral
(00:30:30) Theory 5: Pynchon is painfully unfunny
(00:38:10) Theory 6: Maximalism is just too much, man
(00:49:20) comparison vs DFW, the New Sincerity, and irony poisoning
(00:56:50) Listener mail: In defence of Woolf and the modernists
(01:01:51) Next book announcement
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