Steve Deace Show WHAT'S NEXT? The Future Without Charlie Kirk | Guest: Lucas Miles | 3/19/26
Mar 19, 2026
Lucas Miles, head of TPUSA Faith and pastor, leads Turning Point's faith arm to unite churches and fight 'woke' ideology. He reflects on leadership and grief after Charlie Kirk's death. Conversations cover growth in church networks, preserving unity, debates on Israel and Catholic-Protestant dialogue, and strategies to reach and disciple young men.
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Immediate Aftermath Of Charlie Kirk's Shooting
- Lucas Miles describes his shock and ongoing grief after Charlie Kirk was shot and how he immediately returned to intense organizational work.
- He recounts getting the call poolside: "Charlie's been shot," then doubling TPSA Faith churches from 4,000 to 8,000 during the aftermath as they rallied.
Charlie Kirk's Blueprint Still Drives The Organization
- Turning Point's culture and Charlie's blueprint persist institutionally even after his death, so the organization remains guided by his vision.
- Lucas emphasizes mission continuity while acknowledging risks of mission drift and the need to adapt to new obstacles.
Ignore Performative Noise And Lean Into Internal Unity
- When critics attack from outside, prioritize mission and ignore performative noise; rely on internal unity forged in the trenches.
- Lucas emphasizes Turning Point's close senior team, board support, and doubled church partnerships as stabilizers.