The Joe Rogan Experience #2477 - Rick Perry & W. Bryan Hubbard
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Apr 1, 2026 
Rick Perry, former Texas governor and U.S. energy secretary, joins W. Bryan Hubbard, CEO of Americans for Ibogaine and policy advocate. They dig into Texas’s $100 million ibogaine push, veterans and addiction treatment, brain injury and concussion research, political hurdles, DEA roadblocks, and the surprising coalition building momentum across red states and beyond.
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Dogma Shuts Off The Curiosity That Lets People Grow
- W. Bryan Hubbard argued dogma blocks personal and political evolution, while curiosity keeps people capable of moral and intellectual growth.
- He used his own path from Reagan-era conservative certainty to psychedelic advocacy as proof that identity can harden into blindness.
Rick Perry Tried Ibogaine And Pointed To His Scans
- Rick Perry took ibogaine himself after severe past concussions, anxiety, and insomnia, wanting firsthand credibility before publicly backing it.
- He said scans showed a 27 percent increase in prefrontal cortex activity after a week, and a neurosurgeon later told him his brain atrophy was gone.
Joe Rogan Said He Would Try Ibogaine For Concussions
- Rick Perry directly asked Joe Rogan whether he would consider ibogaine for his many likely concussions from sparring and fighting.
- Rogan said yes, then W. Bryan Hubbard added a story of a woman whose Parkinson's-related tremor reportedly eased after treatment.
