The Great Unlearn

197. Brainwashing & Influence: What Breaks the Human Will, What Restores It & The Future of Ethical Persuasion with Chase Hughes and Adam Schell

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Nov 25, 2025
Chase Hughes, a behavioral profiler and influence expert who studies mind control and persuasion; and Adam Schell, a psychedelic and consciousness practitioner offering integration perspectives. They explore what makes people vulnerable to coercion, how algorithms and PSYOP tactics manufacture suggestibility, psychedelic shifts from I to us, experiential 'exit' retreats, and practical ways to rebuild personal sovereignty.
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ANECDOTE

Mushroom Trip Revealed Hidden Shame

  • On his first mushroom trip Chase cried for hours and saw his life of hidden shame.
  • He realized others' bad behavior came from pain, shifting his interpersonal lens.
ADVICE

Teach Kids To Spot Ad Hooks

  • Train kids to spot emotional hooks in algorithmic feeds and ads.
  • Teach them to scroll one video up to see the emotional thread before the ad appears.
ANECDOTE

Exit Event Produces Deep Change

  • Chase's four-day Exit event is experiential and clinician-reviewed for safety.
  • He claims it produces the most profound transformations he's seen in participants.
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